Thank you, Paul! I just ordered the book from the publisher.

Kouta

On 12 tammi, 23:24, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote:
> You can buy it directly from the publisher at:
>
> http://www.fitzhenry.ca/detail.aspx?ID=10350
>
> Paul
>
> 2010/1/12 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]>
>
> > Paul,
>
> > I mean Amazon's American site, amazon.com:
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/Ontarios-Growth-Forests-Michael-Henry/dp/155041...
>
> > I have ordered many books from amazon.com, it works very well.
> > European sites are amazon.de, amazon.fr and amazon.co.uk.
>
> > Now I see the Canadian site (amazon.ca) does give a price, but says
> > "Usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks". Mike, did you order it from
> > amazon.ca?
>
> > - Kouta
>
> > On 12 tammi, 17:46, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > maybe it's not yet available for distribution in Europe?
>
> > > PJ
>
> > > 2010/1/12 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]>
>
> > > > Mike,
>
> > > > How did you get the book? There is no price in Amazon.com - only a
> > > > message "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available".
>
> > > > - Kouta
>
> > > > On 12 tammi, 01:06, "[email protected]"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Just got the book today...  Can't wait to dig in.
>
> > > > > Mike
>
> > > > > On Jan 7, 9:51 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Thomas,
>
> > > > > > I've ordered the book from Amazon and eagerly await its arrival. Ed
> > > > > > Frank posted a note about it on December 6th.
>
> > > > > > Also, I used to live in Toronto and spent many a day in High Park.
> > > > > > Never been to Lynndale though...
>
> > > > > > Mike
>
> > > > > > On Jan 3, 9:44 pm, Peter Aplin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > H Tom
> > > > > > > I've never been to Backus Woods, but I've hiked through the
> > Charles
> > > > > > > Sauriol Forest across the concession road from Backus. I've never
> > > > > > > seen such large Tulip, Beech and White Pines. It is a great place
> > to
>
> > > > > > > see many Carolinian species north of the border. As I live in
> > > > > > > Toronto, I will go to Lynndale Park, its just up the road from
> > where
>
> > > > > > > I live!
> > > > > > > If you are in the Toronto area, check out Rattlesnake Point near
> > > > > > > Milton. Its along the escarpment and has many very old and gnarly
> > > > > > > Eastern White Cedars.
> > > > > > > Happy New Year
> > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > On 3-Jan-10, at 5:16 PM, thomas howard wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > ENTS,
>
> > > > > > > > I received the new bookOntario'sOld-Growth Forests as a
> > Christmas
> > > > > > > > present. This book by Michael Henry and Peter Quinby is
> > fabulous!
> > > > > > > > it is filled with color photos of glorious old growth trees and
> > > > > > > > forests, and there are detailed descriptions of over 50 old
> > growth
>
> > > > > > > > forests with photos of each site, maps of each site, age of
> > oldest
>
> > > > > > > > trees, forest type, and preservation status. The book is
> > divided by
>
> > > > > > > > forest regions with emphasis on the spectacular White Pine
> > forests
>
> > > > > > > > ofOntario, including Algonquin Provincial Park (where White
> > Pine
> > > > > > > > to 486 years old has been found), Temagami (where the largest
> > old
> > > > > > > > growth Eastern White Pine forests in the world remain). There
> > is
> > > > > > > > not much height information and the authors suggest ENTS
> > methods.
> > > > > > > > They refer to a White Pine 67 meters tall (about 220 ft.) in
> > 1860,
>
> > > > > > > > and to what could beOntario'stallest trees today - White Pines
> > 50
> > > > > > > > meters tall (about 164 ft.) in Gillie's Grove west of Ottawa.
> > Old
> > > > > > > > growth oak savannas are also covered including Paradise Grove
> > in
> > > > > > > > Niagara-on-the-Lake and High Park in Toronto which I visited a
> > week
>
> > > > > > > > ago; also old growth Black Gum over 400 years old in Backus
> > Woods
> > > > > > > > near Lake Erie. There is a chapter with more wonderful photos
> > of
> > > > > > > > the ancient White Cedars of the Niagara Escarpment - these are
> > > > > > > >Ontario'soldest trees and there is a photo of a tree that
> > sprouted
> > > > > > > > in A.D. 701! Also a White Cedar that died in A.D. 770 after
> > living
>
> > > > > > > > 1890 years! There is a great deal of information about how to
> > > > > > > > recognize old growth, about salamanders, bats, etc. and other
> > > > > > > > creatures that live in old growth forests, scientific,
> > spiritual
> > > > > > > > value of old growth, efforts to preserveOntario'sthreatened old
> > > > > > > > growth forests, essays about various values of old growth
> > forests,
>
> > > > > > > > and even an essay about a type of forest little heard about -
> > > > > > > > boreal rain forest by Lake Superior. There is so much more,
> > > > > > > > including detailed descriptions of species like Hemlock, White
> > > > > > > > Pine, Red Pine in old growth settings. I highly recommend this
> > > > book!
>
> > > > > > > > I've also examined some trees in Toronto, and I'm including a
> > > > > > > > report about them here. I did not have the laser rangefinder
> > with
> > > > > > > > me. Lynndale Park is a park near where my brother lives in
> > Toronto.
>
> > > > > > > > Lynndale Park, Toronto, Ont.  10/31/2009 and other Toronto
> > sites
> > > > > > > > Dec. 2009
>
> > > > > > > > Lynndale Park is a small neighborhood park in the Scarborough
> > > > > > > > section of Toronto.
> > > > > > > > It is near Wood Glen Rd. off Kingston Rd. The main feature of
> > this
>
> > > > > > > > pleasant little park is a group of about 22 partly open-grown
> > Red
> > > > > > > > Oaks and White Oaks up to 50 ft. or a little more tall. The
> > oaks
> > > > > > > > seem to be about 80-100 years old.
>
> > > > > > > > Trees examined:
> > > > > > > > Red Oak             30.3” dbh
> > > > > > > > Red Oak             32.8” dbh  largest tree
> > > > > > > > White Oak           24” dbh  should be largest White Oak
> > > > > > > > Red Oak              32.5” dbh
> > > > > > > > White Oak            18.9” dbh average for White Oaks
>
> > > > > > > > I counted 12 Red Oaks and 10 White Oaks.
> > > > > > > > Near edges are large open-grown Silver Maples, and 2 big Black
> > > > > > > > Locusts near Wood Glen Rd. entrance.  Black Locust 23.5” dbh.
> > > > > > > > Wildlife – Black Squirrels, common in all Toronto parks.
>
> > > > > > > > Toronto has a great many oaks in its neighborhoods, mainly Red
> > Oaks
>
> > > > > > > > with some White Oaks; these trees average 50-70 ft. tall and a
> > few
>
> > > > > > > > Red Oaks reach 4 ft. dbh.
> > > > > > > > All Oaks in these areas in eastern Toronto are second growth.
>
> > > > > > > > Large old growth Red Oaks and White Oaks are the dominant trees
> > in
>
> > > > > > > > Queens Park in downtown Toronto – these trees average over 4
> > ft.
> > > > > > > > dbh and have open-grown form as they are remnants from old
> > growth
> > > > > > > > savanna. I counted about 170 rings on the stump of a giant Red
> > Oak
>
> > > > > > > > (stump radius over 30 in.).
>
> > > > > > > > High Park in western Toronto has a restored old growth Oak
> > Savanna
>
> > > > > > > > ecosystem with huge Black Oaks. On Dec. 26, 2009 Jack Howard
> > and I
>
> > > > > > > > visited High Park and examined the following:
> > > > > > > > Black Oak stump                        167 rings
> > 30”
> > > > > > > > radius
> > > > > > > > Black Oak cross-section            206 rings            12”
> > radius
>
> > > > > > > > – from well up in tree; remains of this fallen tree are next to
> > a
> > > > > > > > massive standing open-grown Black Oak over
> > > > > > > >             4 ft. dbh. The tree I examined like other fallen
> > trees
>
> > > > > > > > at High Park was most likely the victim of a storm. The stump
> > of
> > > > > > > > the tree with 206 rings was over
> > > > > > > >  50 % hollow and I could only count 103 rings on the nearly 40”
> > > > > > > > radius stump.
> > > > > > > > Black Oak cross-section            164 rings            55”
> > radius
>
> > > > > > > > – this cross-section lying on
> > > > > > > >             top of a stump close to 6 ft. across, and near a
> > huge
> > > > > > > > standing Black Oak
> > > > > > > >             with massive spiral grain trunk and open grown
> > form.
>
> > > > > > > > Tom Howard
>
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