Paul, Ok, I will write my opinions. It will takes some time as I chose the surface mail option.
-Kouta On 13 tammi, 21:27, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote: > Kouta, > > I'm glad to be of help. After you get a chance to read some of it, please > let us know what you think of it. I just might need to buy a copy for > myself if the comments are favorable! > > Thanks, > > Paul > > 2010/1/13 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]> > > > Thank you, Paul! I just ordered the book from the publisher. > > > Kouta > > > On 12 tammi, 23:24, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You can buy it directly from the publisher at: > > > >http://www.fitzhenry.ca/detail.aspx?ID=10350 > > > > Paul > > > > 2010/1/12 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]> > > > > > Paul, > > > > > I mean Amazon's American site, amazon.com: > > > > >http://www.amazon.com/Ontarios-Growth-Forests-Michael-Henry/dp/155041. > > .. > > > > > I have ordered many books from amazon.com, it works very well. > > > > European sites are amazon.de, amazon.fr and amazon.co.uk. > > > > > Now I see the Canadian site (amazon.ca) does give a price, but says > > > > "Usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks". Mike, did you order it from > > > > amazon.ca? > > > > > - Kouta > > > > > On 12 tammi, 17:46, Paul Jost <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > maybe it's not yet available for distribution in Europe? > > > > > > PJ > > > > > > 2010/1/12 Kouta Räsänen <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > How did you get the book? There is no price in Amazon.com - only a > > > > > > message "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available". > > > > > > > - Kouta > > > > > > > On 12 tammi, 01:06, "[email protected]" > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Just got the book today... Can't wait to dig in. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 9:51 pm, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thomas, > > > > > > > > > I've ordered the book from Amazon and eagerly await its > > arrival. Ed > > > > > > > > Frank posted a note about it on December 6th. > > > > > > > > > Also, I used to live in Toronto and spent many a day in High > > Park. > > > > > > > > Never been to Lynndale though... > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 9:44 pm, Peter Aplin <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > H Tom > > > > > > > > > I've never been to Backus Woods, but I've hiked through the > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > Sauriol Forest across the concession road from Backus. I've > > never > > > > > > > > > seen such large Tulip, Beech and White Pines. It is a great > > place > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > see many Carolinian species north of the border. As I live in > > > > > > > > > Toronto, I will go to Lynndale Park, its just up the road > > from > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > I live! > > > > > > > > > If you are in the Toronto area, check out Rattlesnake Point > > near > > > > > > > > > Milton. Its along the escarpment and has many very old and > > gnarly > > > > > > > > > Eastern White Cedars. > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > On 3-Jan-10, at 5:16 PM, thomas howard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ENTS, > > > > > > > > > > > I received the new bookOntario'sOld-Growth Forests as a > > > > Christmas > > > > > > > > > > present. This book by Michael Henry and Peter Quinby is > > > > fabulous! > > > > > > > > > > it is filled with color photos of glorious old growth trees > > and > > > > > > > > > > forests, and there are detailed descriptions of over 50 old > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > > forests with photos of each site, maps of each site, age of > > > > oldest > > > > > > > > > > > trees, forest type, and preservation status. The book is > > > > divided by > > > > > > > > > > > forest regions with emphasis on the spectacular White Pine > > > > forests > > > > > > > > > > > ofOntario, including Algonquin Provincial Park (where White > > > > Pine > > > > > > > > > > to 486 years old has been found), Temagami (where the > > largest > > > > old > > > > > > > > > > growth Eastern White Pine forests in the world remain). > > There > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > not much height information and the authors suggest ENTS > > > > methods. > > > > > > > > > > They refer to a White Pine 67 meters tall (about 220 ft.) > > in > > > > 1860, > > > > > > > > > > > and to what could beOntario'stallest trees today - White > > Pines > > > > 50 > > > > > > > > > > meters tall (about 164 ft.) in Gillie's Grove west of > > Ottawa. > > > > Old > > > > > > > > > > growth oak savannas are also covered including Paradise > > Grove > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Niagara-on-the-Lake and High Park in Toronto which I > > visited a > > > > week > > > > > > > > > > > ago; also old growth Black Gum over 400 years old in Backus > > > > Woods > > > > > > > > > > near Lake Erie. There is a chapter with more wonderful > > photos > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the ancient White Cedars of the Niagara Escarpment - these > > are > > > > > > > > > >Ontario'soldest trees and there is a photo of a tree that > > > > sprouted > > > > > > > > > > in A.D. 701! Also a White Cedar that died in A.D. 770 after > > > > living > > > > > > > > > > > 1890 years! There is a great deal of information about how > > to > > > > > > > > > > recognize old growth, about salamanders, bats, etc. and > > other > > > > > > > > > > creatures that live in old growth forests, scientific, > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > > value of old growth, efforts to preserveOntario'sthreatened > > old > > > > > > > > > > growth forests, essays about various values of old growth > > > > forests, > > > > > > > > > > > and even an essay about a type of forest little heard about > > - > > > > > > > > > > boreal rain forest by Lake Superior. There is so much more, > > > > > > > > > > including detailed descriptions of species like Hemlock, > > White > > > > > > > > > > Pine, Red Pine in old growth settings. I highly recommend > > this > > > > > > book! > > > > > > > > > > > I've also examined some trees in Toronto, and I'm including > > a > > > > > > > > > > report about them here. I did not have the laser > > rangefinder > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > me. Lynndale Park is a park near where my brother lives in > > > > Toronto. > > > > > > > > > > > Lynndale Park, Toronto, Ont. 10/31/2009 and other Toronto > > > > sites > > > > > > > > > > Dec. 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > Lynndale Park is a small neighborhood park in the > > Scarborough > > > > > > > > > > section of Toronto. > > > > > > > > > > It is near Wood Glen Rd. off Kingston Rd. The main feature > > of > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > pleasant little park is a group of about 22 partly > > open-grown > > > > Red > > > > > > > > > > Oaks and White Oaks up to 50 ft. or a little more tall. The > > > > oaks > > > > > > > > > > seem to be about 80-100 years old. > > > > > > > > > > > Trees examined: > > > > > > > > > > Red Oak 30.3” dbh > > > > > > > > > > Red Oak 32.8” dbh largest tree > > > > > > > > > > White Oak 24” dbh should be largest White Oak > > > > > > > > > > Red Oak 32.5” dbh > > > > > > > > > > White Oak 18.9” dbh average for White Oaks > > > > > > > > > > > I counted 12 Red Oaks and 10 White Oaks. > > > > > > > > > > Near edges are large open-grown Silver Maples, and 2 big > > Black > > > > > > > > > > Locusts near Wood Glen Rd. entrance. Black Locust 23.5” > > dbh. > > > > > > > > > > Wildlife – Black Squirrels, common in all Toronto parks. > > > > > > > > > > > Toronto has a great many oaks in its neighborhoods, mainly > > Red > > > > Oaks > > > > > > > > > > > with some White Oaks; these trees average 50-70 ft. tall > > and a > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > Red Oaks reach 4 ft. dbh. > > > > > > > > > > All Oaks in these areas in eastern Toronto are second > > growth. > > > > > > > > > > > Large old growth Red Oaks and White Oaks are the dominant > > trees > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Queens Park in downtown Toronto – these trees average over > > 4 > > > > ft. > > > > > > > > > > dbh and have open-grown form as they are remnants from old > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > savanna. I counted about 170 rings on the stump of a giant > > Red > > > > Oak > > > > > > > > > > > (stump radius over 30 in.). > > > > > > > > > > > High Park in western Toronto has a restored old growth Oak > > > > Savanna > > > > > > > > > > > ecosystem with huge Black Oaks. On Dec. 26, 2009 Jack > > Howard > > > > and I > > > > > > > > > > > visited High Park and examined the following: > > > > > > > > > > Black Oak stump 167 rings > > > > 30” > > > > > > > > > > radius > > > > > > > > > > Black Oak cross-section 206 rings 12” > > > > radius > > > > > > > > > > > – from well up in tree; remains of this fallen tree are > > next to > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > massive standing open-grown Black Oak over > > > > > > > > > > 4 ft. dbh. The tree I examined like other > > fallen > > > > trees > > > > > > > > > > > at High Park was most likely the victim of a storm. The > > stump > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the tree with 206 rings was over > > > > > > > > > > 50 % hollow and I could only count 103 rings on the nearly > > 40” > > > > > > > > > > radius stump. > > > > > > > > > > Black Oak cross-section 164 rings 55” > > > > radius > > > > > > > > > > > – this cross-section lying on > > > > > > > > > > top of a stump close to 6 ft. across, and near > > a > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > standing Black Oak > > > > > > > > > > with massive spiral grain trunk and open grown > > > > form. > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Howard > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign > > up > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Eastern Native Tree Societyhttp:// > >www.nativetreesociety.org > > > > > > > > > > Send email to [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Visit this group athttp:// > > > > groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > > <entstrees%[email protected]<entstrees%[email protected]> > > ... > > lisää »
-- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] Email Options: http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees/subscribe?hl=en
