Larry-

Fear not, another predator is unleashed daily and may assist in the reduction 
of house sparrows, etc...the common housecat...;>}

-DOn
 
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:22:55 -0500
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> haha although out in the wilds starlings and house sparrows are pretty bad 
> though since they kill off native species, at least where the forest 
> interior is not deep enough, where it often is not in today's fragmented 
> landscapes (well certainly in many parts of the mid-atlantic northeast)
> 
> it seems like starlings tend to kill off eastern bluebirds and red-headed 
> woodpeckers
> 
> and cowbirds, while native, have spread along all the artificial edges 
> created and knock off warblers and others
> 
> and introduced rats have all but extirpated the native wood rats of NJ, I 
> think there is only one remaining colony left (oddly looking over Manhattan) 
> and the last one near my area I think got killed off 10-20 years ago :(
> 
> -Larry
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Andrew Joslin" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath
> 
> > Cultural difference here :-) City dwelling naturalists (like myself and 
> > likely Jenny) often have a sense of the preciousness of all nature has to 
> > offer. That includes birds like pigeons, starlings gulls and house 
> > sparrows which many think of as "trash" species. What's impressive is that 
> > they persist as wild animals in urban environments and their presence 
> > carries a little bit of nature into the urban environment. So call them 
> > "stinkin' birds" at your peril!! :-) Hey, I like ailanthus and rats too, 
> > what can I say, I'm weird :-)
> > -AJ
> >
> > JennyNYC wrote:
> >> Okay, the shooting of "stinking birds" is a joke (and a bad one),
> >> right????!!!!!!
> >>
> >> Jenny
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 12, 11:12 am, Gaines McMartin <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bob:
> >>>
> >>> I have sat on the front porch of the little trailer home I have at
> >>> my timberland, and many, many times contemplated the possibility of
> >>> shooting a few of these stinking birds. So far I have not had the
> >>> initiative to do that. But....
> >>>
> >>> --Gaines
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>  
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> On 1/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Gaines,
> >>>> Oh boy, I hope a rift doesn't develop here in ENTS. Those of us 
> >>>> obsessed
> >>>> with tree heights will naturally want to limit damage by birds perching 
> >>>> in
> >>>> the crowns, especially their highest parts. I'm definitely not 
> >>>> suggesting
> >>>> anyone get out his/her youthful slingshot, but in time the temptation 
> >>>> could
> >>>> grow. Giving this line of thinking a foothold could prompt Jennifer 
> >>>> Dudley
> >>>> to establish a bird safety patrol to keep a close eye on us measurers.
> >>>> Jenny's wrath would be swift and terrible. Resist the temptation Will.
> >>>> Resist the temptation Scott, John, Dale, .......... Resist. Resist.
> >>>> Bob
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
                                          
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