Do you really think that only omnivores/carnivores kill or eat birds? Read this surprising article on deer depredation on grassland songbirds:
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/deerpred/index.htm Years ago, I watched deer eat dead fish that had floated up onto Lake Superior's shore. They surely eat practically everything in the wilds! Paul On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, DON BERTOLETTE <[email protected]>wrote: > Larry- > I was speaking so tongue-in-cheek, I wasn't sure if you caught my > message...;>} > -Don > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:42:47 -0500 > > Don, > > haha, true, the only problem is with the "etc." ground-nesting natives in > particular get devastated if there are free-roaming cats in the area. > > > -Larry > > > *From:* DON BERTOLETTE <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath > > Larry- > Fear not, another predator is unleashed daily and may assist in > the reduction of house sparrows, etc...the common housecat...;>} > -DOn > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:22:55 -0500 > > > > Andrew, > > > > haha although out in the wilds starlings and house sparrows are pretty > bad > > though since they kill off native species, at least where the forest > > interior is not deep enough, where it often is not in today's fragmented > > landscapes (well certainly in many parts of the mid-atlantic northeast) > > > > it seems like starlings tend to kill off eastern bluebirds and red-headed > > > woodpeckers > > > > and cowbirds, while native, have spread along all the artificial edges > > created and knock off warblers and others > > > > and introduced rats have all but extirpated the native wood rats of NJ, I > > > think there is only one remaining colony left (oddly looking over > Manhattan) > > and the last one near my area I think got killed off 10-20 years ago :( > > > > -Larry > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Andrew Joslin" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:29 AM > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Projected heights and Jenny's wrath > > > > > Cultural difference here :-) City dwelling naturalists (like myself and > > > > likely Jenny) often have a sense of the preciousness of all nature has > to > > > offer. That includes birds like pigeons, starlings gulls and house > > > sparrows which many think of as "trash" species. What's impressive is > that > > > they persist as wild animals in urban environments and their presence > > > carries a little bit of nature into the urban environment. So call them > > > > "stinkin' birds" at your peril!! :-) Hey, I like ailanthus and rats > too, > > > what can I say, I'm weird :-) > > > -AJ > > > > > > JennyNYC wrote: > > >> Okay, the shooting of "stinking birds" is a joke (and a bad one), > > >> right????!!!!!! > > >> > > >> Jenny > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jan 12, 11:12 am, Gaines McMartin <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Bob: > > >>> > > >>> I have sat on the front porch of the little trailer home I have at > > >>> my timberland, and many, many times contemplated the possibility of > > >>> shooting a few of these stinking birds. So far I have not had the > > >>> initiative to do that. But.... > > >>> > > >>> --Gaines > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> ---------- > > >>> > > >>> On 1/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Gaines, > > >>>> Oh boy, I hope a rift doesn't develop here in ENTS. Those of us > > >>>> obsessed > > >>>> with tree heights will naturally want to limit damage by birds > perching > > >>>> in > > >>>> the crowns, especially their highest parts. I'm definitely not > > >>>> suggesting > > >>>> anyone get out his/her youthful slingshot, but in time the > temptation > > >>>> could > > >>>> grow. Giving this line of thinking a foothold could prompt Jennifer > > >>>> Dudley > > >>>> to establish a bird safety patrol to keep a close eye on us > measurers. > > >>>> Jenny's wrath would be swift and terrible. Resist the temptation > Will. > > >>>> Resist the temptation Scott, John, Dale, .......... Resist. Resist. > > >>>> Bob > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/> >
