On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Michael Quack wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:03:37 +0200 (EET)
> > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hugo_G=E4vert?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Michael Quack wrote:
> > > Too expensive. I do use studio flash where viable, but
> > > for small budgets I'd rather go with cheap mains powered
> > > slaves. Gives you more lights at less cost.
>
> Monitor http://www.photoquack.de/tutorials/diylights.htm
> I am working on the translation, and have links to more
> pages with a lot more detail to that.
Since it seems that you have just started... can you give me pointers to
these cheap slave flashes? Some mail order companies in EU? I "scanned"
through the page and I did not see any prices for any flashes. Nor any
real recommendations... so I take it that after you have translated there
will still be no such info there. Maybe you can give me some brands,
prices and mailorder shops that sell them?
Also, I'm still confused about firing these, is it through the PC-socket
as normal studio flashes?
> >>>1) Is 420EX really powerfull enough for
> > > Yes, it is up to some extent, but it is entirely
> > > the wrong tool for the job.
> > Why?
>
> Because TTL in all flavors renders different power output
> with different position of your subject, and it only works
> well with average subject contrast. To achieve strong
> contrasts and modulate your subject precisely you need
> fixed power output and a flash meter. TTL is not able to
> do this without massive manipulation or nasty surprises.
This I will believe. And yes, I'd like to get D30, but it's not yet the
camera I want to pay for. (Nor could I, but that's besides the point :-)
> Shoe mount flashes are not made for continuous use. You
> will have a lot of hassle to always have fresh batteries.
> Mains operated slaves save you from that.
Moot point for me. I will not have any problems of that kind. (And if I
will I will live with them. I'm not building a pro studio here!)
> > > No TTL or E-TTL metering, though.
> > > (Who needs that?)
> > I do. Or should I say, I think I need the multi-group E-TTL...
>
> No. You need a reproducable, calculatable output.
> In camera metering is nice for flat lighting from
> the camera, but it doesn't do much good elsewhere.
Well this isn't quite what others have said about E-TTL. I will try to get
some of those 420EX's for loan some day and check the system. Have you
used the wireless multiflash E-TTL system? (At least you seem to talk
about TTL and E-TTL as being in the same boat, even though they are very
different, specially with the 3 group control... just makes me wonder)
> > > Oh my. TTL, A-TTL or E-TTL and studio don't mix well.
> > > In fact they don't mix at all.
> > Again, why? Please give some reasons why they
> > don't mix at all.
>
> Because you lose control over what you are doing, and in
> situations with high contrasts you can almost be sure that
> the transmitter won't trigger the remote flash.
What? What kind of situations would prevent the wireless flash commands
from trasmitting? I have never heard that anybody would have had any
problems with them - specially inside. What are you talking about?
> You might want to do slight adjustments and see what
> the difference is. TTL metering will level most of
> your sophisticated light. Precise, reproducable manual
> settings preserve it.
This I believe. But so far the setups that would allow me to do that are
either very expensive and don't include the 550EX I already have, or would
mean that I buy several 550EX's, which I consider too expensive and would
like to go with some 420EX's if possible.
Best regards,
Hugo.
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