In a message dated 4/17/01 4:12:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<< >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/01 01:25PM >>>
 >>>Well just for kicks lets see how everyone feels.  You have a choice of a 
new
 >>>70-200 4.0L or a used 80 200 2.8L for about the same money.   Which would
 >>>you take and why?
 >>>Mark Blackwell
 
 Mark,
 
 You have to come up with your own conclusions.  It all depends on what 
sacrifices you want to make.  When I bought the 70-200 2.8L I thought about 
the following things over the 70-200 4L:
 
 -I did want the extra stop to blur backgrounds, although some say it is not 
a major difference.
 -The 4L is MUCH lighter.
 -The 2.8L comes with a tripod collar, a $160 or so purchase on the 4L.  I 
would never want to shoot on a tripod without this now that I have it.
 -The 4L has an odd size filter ring.  67 or something.  The 2.8L used the 
same filter size as my 20-35 (non-L) and 28070 2.8L.
 
 If I was traveling a lot I think I may go for the 4L because of the weight.  
I have heard that it is just as sharp.  I'm sure others will give you more to 
think about.
 
 After all that, I love this lens.  It performs wonderfully and is 
complemented bu the 28-70 2.8L.
 
 John >>

Hi,
You also have to consider if you want to use TCs - Canon TCs will not fit 
Canon 80-200L lens, (well, maybe with and ext tube), that's why I use new 
Kenko Pro TCs on my 80-200L , that are as close as it gets to Canon in 
quality. So, 2.8 lens will give you and option to use with TCs easy, while 
f/4.0 lens will have some limitations. 
Someone said that AF speed is also an issue. True. 80-200L doesn't have USM, 
nor FTM. Well, FTM - you'll have to switch the lens to MF focus to touch up 
focusing. A bit inconvenient. As far as AF speed - motor in 80-200L is very 
fast, very close to 70-200/2.8 in speed, just not as silent.
 Also, 80-200L will be a used lens, and I take it 70-200/4.0 L will be new. 
While L lenses even used are often in great shape and will work without a 
problem forever, it's a good idea to check it, to make sure it is in good 
shape. For the above reason L lenses could be more abused by Pros. For the 
record - I have Canon 80-200L and it produces great quality images. I do wish 
it had FTM, not as much miss USM. But for the price - it was worth it. But 
than again, 2.8 over 4.0 is MUCH more important to me than other features.
George
 

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