Chip Louie wrote:
> 

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> I think most of the confusion is coming from people using the term "shift."
> When using the term "shift" in relationship to exposure, Canon's
> documentation (what little there is of it anyway), generally uses the term
> to describe altering the one or both exposure settings while retaining the
> same EV.  What you wish to do has a similar, but narrow effect on exposure
> settings to achieve your purpose so I can see how you might call it a
> "shift."  But really it's not so much a "shift" as an adjustment in the
> value of the CoC you want.

Well, it's both :-) The CoC size change is a side effect of the applied 
program shift. I'm not sure if Canon allowed this intentionally in their
lesser (non pro) bodies, although it is a useful thing.

> 
> It would be cool if they had a DEP mode CoC selection as a custom function.
> It would be easy to make the change in firmware but I doubt many
> photographers would make use of this option.  Maybe someone at Canon could
> make this change and offer it as a perm ant change option for the EOS
> firmware or add it as a single custom function.

Yes, this would be the ultimate solution of the "problem". 

> 
> I've never found myself wanting to alter the settings that DEP had selected
> after seeing the results on film.  But this probably had something to do
> with the way I use DEP mode, infrequently, and the fact that I found that I
> could get better results by simply expanding the zone that I want to keep in
> sharp focus.  This is effectively the same thing as what you are trying to
> do, if possibly slightly less precise than having the camera perform the
> calculation but takes no additional steps or adjustments in practical
> shooting.  When I bought EOS 1n bodies several years ago (to replace the EOS
> 5QD bodies), I never made any changes in my DEP mode shooting and saw no
> differences in the results of DEP mode use because I had already changed the
> way I used DEP's AF points.

Yes, this is another workaround for the "problem". For my kind of pictures,
DEP mode is not required anyway. Well, to be honest, I don't know if DEP mode
is *required* for any type of shooting. Generations of photographers could
do without it :-) What kind of annoys me is, that it just doesn't work to 
it's full potential the way it is implemented in the pro bodies. Personally, 
I use either hyperfocal focusing or even focus on infinity and stop down a 
little more for most of my pictures. And for most of the rest, some action 
type photos (occasional racing shots), there's certainly not enough time
to use DEP mode anyway. ;-) And for the small rest of my shooting, if I 
use DEP mode, the workarounds like choosing the AF points as to expand the
zone of focus or simply changing modes first and then do whatever I want with
the aperture value is sufficient. It would be easier if it (DEP) was implemented 
like e.g. on my EOS 5 and 100, though. Hehe, if Canon had implemented DEP mode 
on all models like on the 1N, maybe noone would ever had complained about it.
But to *show* they can do better and then not to do so intentionally(?)
means asking for trouble and critique. ;-)

Thomas Bantel
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