Thomas Bantel wrote (edited):
>... to compare mid range apertures is a little like, hmmm, 
>comparing a VW and a Ferrari at 50 mph. The interesting 
> thing is, the 28-70 is quite good at apertures
> that mean wide open with the 28-135. And even 
> at f/2.8 it's not really a bad performer. 

Gee, what would be the difference then if bith cars were on a highways 
and both were only allowed to run 50MPH? Answer: Nothing!
You see, at 50MPH the VW owner is saving a small fortune, the Ferrari
owner is worrying about the next payment.

>Then, there are those things you won't see when you are in a hurry: Real 
>world results. I'll put my flame proof suit on, I have to state I believe 
>to see a difference beyond sharpness. Maybe it's the more vibrant colors 
>or the infamous Leica glow, the pictures appear to look different when 
>compared to my 28-135 or 28-105 (or my Sigma 28-70/2.8). 

Here we go again. The Leica glow is "old-timer talk" that typically
justifies 
an amateur owning an expensive lens. Granted the 28-70L is an excellent
optic, but unless you need F2.8, save your money. 

Peter K
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