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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Davis
> Nature Photography
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: EOS OT: CM questions
>
>
> "Chip Louie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote/replied to:
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> >> If a photographer really wants to make the whole process easier and do
> >> their own printing, a Mac is the only way to go :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Davis
> >>
> >
> >Hi Jim,
> >
> >Great way to sneak in a troll.
>
> Ya sort of. I don't own a Mac, but I understand colour calibration
> systems are built in a more refined.
>
> I really have no problem matching my onscreen display to the Frontier.
> For that matter, I've had little problem making matching prints on the
> Epson 890 Photo either, but due to fading and price, I don't do that
> much anymore.
>
> --
> Jim Davis
>

Hi Jim,

Well I'm thinking about buying a 2GHz. DP G5 just to see what all the devout
MAC worshipers are making such a fuss about.  I have a friend who bought one
a few weeks ago and in my short casual use with PS7 on her system I can't
say that I'm impressed one way or the other except for what appears to be
the very high price she paid for the whole system.  Being a UNIX consultant
it would be educational to see what they have done to UNIX.  I've owned
Apples and MACs in the past but generally they were too slow and limited in
options and software.  Of course this is from a hardware/software guy who
has been designing and playing with small systems since the Altair 8800 came
out.  Anyway based on what I've seen so far a DP 2GHz. G5 is a strong
performer in some areas and pretty weak in others.  It seems that an DP
Opteron or DP 3GHz. Xeon with a decent 3D card, adequate system RAM and a
two or three drive stripe across 10K SATA spindles, even in the current
slowish 1st gen mobos should handily beat a 2GHz. DP G5 in real world
application.

You had fading problems with your Epson 890?  What kind of inks and papers
are you using?  Did you display them matted and under glass?  When you store
them are you using pH balanced storage materials?  My wife is a BIG scrap
booker (this is what she has done with my photos over the last 25 years),
and she got me into the archival aspects of storage and display.  I've only
had my 1280S and 2200 for 7 or 8 months now but have yet to see any fading
of stored or properly displayed prints.  The 6 month old refrigerator and
deep freezer pictures on display (using magnets 8^)), in a kitchen flooded
with natural light and STRONG daylight balanced fluorescents 18-20 hours a
day don't show any signs of fading and the images are still very well color
balanced.  I don't know how long they will last but I'm getting tired of
looking at them and need to change them.

If you're complaining about the price of media and ink that means is that
you're wasting too much material trying to get good prints and wind up with
too few good prints for the money.  It costs about $40 for a single 11x14
(and about $140 for 6 of the same image, so about $23 each), Type C LightJet
print at A&I.  For about $40 I can replace the color and black ink carts in
my 1280S, 13x19 Epson PGPP is about a $1.50 per sheet.  I can print a LOT of
13x19 prints for a lot less than I can get them from A&I Color, about 80%
less including waste.  I can generally get excellent color the first time
and almost never have to reprint due to color problems.  If I reprint it's
usually due to something I see in a large, first-time print that I think I
can adjust better to improve the print.

Given the amount of control and image quality I can get out of my printers,
unless I'm printing a zillion 4x6 prints to pass out to my VERY large family
I prefer to print them myself.  For these causal friends and family shots
and prints I just run them through C1 Pro and burn a CD-R and off to Samy's
they go for output on the Noritsu 3100 digital minilab.

I always print the images I give as gifts unless I need something larger
then the 13x19 paper that the little Epsons can handle.  The color, image
detail and contrast range is generally better on my own prints, unless I
take the time (and major expense), to sit down at A&I Photo with a retoucher
and color correct on their system.  This is what I have to do for larger
prints because the Epsons are limited to 13" wide cut sheets.  Generally I
can almost always better A&I Color's prints so unless I go large I usually
print them myself.

But I am biased, a control freak and have been told I'm nuts so you may want
to take this with a grain or maybe a tablespoon of salt.  8^)


Cheers/Chip



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