----- Original Message ----- > On 01/15/2014 04:26 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 01/15/2014 12:16 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 14 January 2014 09:57, Orion Poplawski <or...@cora.nwra.com > >> <mailto:or...@cora.nwra.com>> wrote: > >> > >> It seems like it would be nice to have python 3 in EPEL 7. Anyone > >> willing to > >> maintain it there? > >> > >> It seems to build fine: > >> > >> http://copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org/coprs/orion/Python3_EPEL7/builds/ > >> > >> > >> Well a couple of other things would be needed beyond just > >> maintenance: > >> > >> 1) Does providing python-3.4 mean that 3.4 will be the only python > >> every > >> provided by EPEL? > >> 2) If it doesn't then how are upgrades from 3.4 to 3.5 to 3.6 going to > >> be > >> handled? > >> > >> -- > >> Stephen J Smoogen. > >> > >> > >> Well the problem is that once you provide a build for EPEL, you shouldn't > >> really do major updates [1], so it seems we would be stuck with whatever > >> we > >> build for 10+ years. I don't like that very much. We could probably do > >> python3.4, python3.5 etc, but that'd probably require some modifications > >> to > >> dependency generators, etc... I'm not going to stay in anyones way to do > >> this, > >> but I won't do it myself. > >> > >> Slavek. > >> > >> [1] > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#A_major_version_update > >> > > > > Well, quite frankly, I think anyone expecting 10 years of support for EPEL > > packages is deluding themselves, some specific packages excepted. Users of > > EPEL are probably best served by upgrading to newer versions of EL as soon > > as > > practical. > > > > My recommendation would be to ship python 3.4 as a "normal" python3 > > package. > > The python folks appear to be committed to providing 5 years of security > > fixes > > for a release. This seems to be as long can be reasonably expected of > > EPEL. > > > > Perhaps as time goes by, it may make sense to package a later python3.X > > version if people really want to. > > > > > > This thread appears to have gone off on a lot of tangents. Getting back to > the original questions: > > - Shall we build python 3.4 as python3 in EPEL7 when it is released? > - Anyone willing to maintain it?
As I've noted previously, I won't stand in anyone's way, but I'm not going to maintain Python 3 in EPEL 7 myself. > - I see that 3.4.0 beta 2 is out, time to get it into rawhide at least? There is a Change proposal for that at [1] and it's a work in progress. The thing that is holding me back is handling the ensurepip script. I already have an experimental solution, but I have to verify that it works under all possible circumstances, first. Also, the Change states that I'll build 3.4 for Rawhide only if "reasonably small amount of non-essential packages doesn't build/work with Python 3.4", which I haven't had time to test so far. > Thanks. Slavek. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3.4 _______________________________________________ epel-devel mailing list epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel
