That's YOUR opinon, You have neither heard not listened. NOT my problem so why tell me? Playing social dominance games? BBB OO RR II NN GG !!!! adrian
Sam Carana wrote: > You haven't said anything, Adrian. > > Sam Carana > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OFF coarse, Sam >> You're entitled to fantasise as you like. Obviously you're not very uptodate >> with any research. >> LET'S stick with experience and beliefs, Reality can look after itself. The >> last person to >> realise it is one who is stuck in a belief. AND Facere, what's done is >> WHAT'S DONE. I am doing >> it. FACT is cognate to 'feitico' which means fetish. So don't teach gran how >> to suck eggs. and >> include Factititious and any word prefixed with fact, like facile, etc. The >> online etymology >> dictionary goes neither deep nor far. Onelook shows 22 instances of words in >> fac.... like a >> Factotum, who makes facts into a Totem or prays to one or more humbly totes >> them around. [from >> fac, imperative of facere "do"] faculties distribute facts and factoids. >> Google provides >> 52,500,000 for fac? That's more than any factory could facilitate, not to >> ignore being outfaced >> or faced up with. >> >> "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No >> one is fanatically >> shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to >> rise tomorrow. When >> people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any >> other kinds of dogmas >> or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. >> Pirsig, "Zen in the >> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a >> fork when eating, >> though Uri Geller does. >> >> I'm now DONE with you. >> >> adrian >> >> >> Sam Carana wrote: >>> Adrian, whatever this "appearance of illusion or a ghostly or >>> astravlevent set" may be that you're talking about, I think it's a >>> figment of someone's imagination, i.e. quite the opposite of reality I >>> would say, so let's stick to reality instead, rather than your ghastly >>> description of whatever you were referring to. Also, your etymological >>> analysis of facts is incorrect, the word comes from the Latin facere >>> and means 'what's done', so facts are given, they are out there, >>> before we start giving our opinions about things. So, to describe >>> facts as products of theories does not to make sense either, because a >>> fact is what's done/made/occurred before we start making theories or >>> giving opinions. Facts are parts of reality, which is founded in >>> diversity. And yes, that's a fact! >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Sam Carana >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Jeepers, first time I can take two potshots at once. >>>> >>>> Sam, What you call reality amounts to the physical world or >>>> phenomenological. Recent findings >>>> show that this is an appearance of illusion or a ghostly or astravlevent >>>> set. A lot of people >>>> latch onto a facet or aspect of this world and take it for the complete >>>> answer. Diversity is >>>> variations on a theme one can call archetypes. So you're right but >>>> incomplete. Besides as I >>>> keep on repeating a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory, which is a pattern that >>>> serve as a >>>> logicalised background of a percept or observation. Fact is cognate to >>>> feitico, west Indian >>>> voodoo jargon, which means fetish. So in a catchphrase don't make a fetish >>>> of any fact. >>>> adrian >>>> >>>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>>> Hi Fred, >>>>> >>>>> Good to hear from you. I believe that diversity is fundamental to >>>>> reality. >>>>> Did you read my recent thread on this, at: >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_frm/thread/5555b41cef633d3e >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> Sam Carana >>>>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
