Dear Fred,
I've known that for yonks, inclucding the total unreliability of language to 
cope witn the one 
meaning per word fantasy. I've got a precision grade mind, and have struggled 
with language all 
my life.

BTW we also know through intuition, quite taboo to "intellect.
We're not born with certain knowledge at all, I know since I was born conscious 
at birthy, but 
are very good in understanding, and fast as well. English is lousy with its 
"know". Do you mean 
Kennschaft, Wisssenschaft or Heidegger's existential? LOcke's tabulas rasa was 
right about that 
and sociology and linguistics is quite wrong that we need an education to br 
brainwashed into 
what politics wants us to believe, all the better to manipulate us like the 
witch in Hansel and 
Gretel. They were not in a cage at all, only a make believe one.
Yeah:
""The bait is the means to get the fish where you want it. Catch the fish and 
you forget the 
bait. The snare is the means to get the rabbit where you want it. Catch the 
rabbit and you 
forget the snare. Words are the means to get the idea where you want it. Catch 
the idea and you 
forget about the words. Where shall I find a man who forgets about words and 
have a word with 
him> Chuang tzu

You mean that one, dirty trick, I don't like Willard van Ormond Quine on it at 
all.

""You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one 
is fanatically 
shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to rise 
tomorrow. When 
people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other 
kinds of dogmas 
or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. 
Pirsig, "Zen in the 
Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a fork 
when eating, 
though Uri Geller does.
Also old hat to me, not to "the public". SOME don't like being uncertain, they 
go for the 
'safe' fantasy, etc...

Apart from all that I now parade on Complementary and leave the kiddies to play 
in god 
particle. Typical chaos bifurcation or Protestant sectarian split, haha. After 
being abusive 
they've gone for silence. de Gaulle tried that and see what happened to him. 
Did not last 
forever either.

Apart from all that you musta got annoyed by your students and are going for 
the plebs?

adrian


fred wrote:
> Okay, I will reluctantly summarize. I argue in the book that there are
> 4 ways of knowing: We are born with certain knowledge (Kant's a
> priori), we know through faith, we know through reason, and we know
> through perception. I argue that each of those ways is seriously
> defective. Not only should we not be certain about "knowledge" gained
> through any of those, we don't even have justification for being
> confident about them. I also note two paradoxes: first, although I
> criticize reason, my whole book is an attempt to persuade through
> reason. Second, although I fully believe what I wrote,  I expect the
> sun to come up tomorrow and in all other ways live life assuming that
> things are pretty much what they seem.
> 
> On Sep 10, 12:27 am, Georges Metanomski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> George: You wrote  "I find there some loose talk about
>>> beliefs, but
>>> nothing referring to "Existence" or
>>> "Uncertainty""
>>>     That's what the book is about. Sorry, I can't
>>> summarize in a few
>>> sentences.
>> ===========
>> My long scientific and epistemological experience tells me
>> that propounders of most complex theories could usually
>> summarize them in one or two concise sentences, or else
>> they usually did not know what they were talking about.
>> I may grant you a benefice of doubt, but it's not a good
>> advertising of your book.
>>
>> Once I asked for a trial run of a car and the salesman
>> told me: <First buy, then test>.
>>
>> Only he was joking.
>>
>> Georges.
>> ================
> 
> > 
> 


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