On Sep 25, 9:07 pm, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, sorry, it read to me like that. still does.
> Yes, politics has always worked like that. It promises us a safe life and
> then invents a
> bugaboo to threaten us to make us ask for more protection from dangers. Bush
> is behaving
> exactly like a pope who behaves exactly like roman emperors, etc blahh.
>
> """ Of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But... it's
> always a simple
> matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist
> dictatorship, a parliament,
> or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
> brought to the bidding
> of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
> attacked, and
> denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
> danger. It works the
> same in any country. Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg trials, 1946 from
> Nuremberg Diary, by G.
> M. Gilbert.
> What else is new? I am not stuck in a hole, I am being stuck in a hole,
> that's different.
Okay - point taken.
>
> adrian
>
> chazwin wrote:
>
> > On Sep 25, 3:05 pm, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You're forgiven for not understanding me. I ain't patriotic AT ALL.
> >> I think of consequences.
>
> >> adrian
>
> > Hello? I did not say that you were patriotic: I was drawing an
> > analogy.
> > I shall spell it out. Bush is saying either accept the plan or we are
> > doomed to a worse fate, no alternative, do or die. It is the way right
> > wing politics has always worked. Exterminate the Jews, or be ruled by
> > them; attack Iraq or accept international domination of Islam.
> > It is a game.
> > I am saying that there are many other ways to solve this problem that
> > would not reward the sharks, and not penalise the ordinary taxpayer.
>
> >> chazwin wrote:
> >>> You seem to be stuck in the same hole as is characterised by the "You
> >>> are a Patriot OR you are Anti-war" stance that Bush and his cronies
> >>> has imposed on the debacle in Iraq.
> >>> Here you are stuck in thinking either $700bill handout to the rich OR
> >>> depression. This is not the case - there might be other alternatives.
> >>> If you think it possible that to be patriotic and against the war then
> >>> your imagination might find an alternative to stealing off the people
> >>> to help the sharks.
> >>> On Sep 25, 10:32 am, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> BUT, if the market crashes their money deflates too?
> >>>> Do they plan a repeat of the 1929 Kennedy trick, to sit on the money
> >>>> until the market collapses
> >>>> and then go on a buying spree? If so it's part of the takeover of the
> >>>> world?
> >>>> adrian
> >>>> chazwin wrote:
> >>>>> The $700billion Swindle
> >>>>> Over the last few years money markets have been engaged in a feeding
> >>>>> frenzy of massive profits and unjustified and bloated bonuses. This
> >>>>> greedy unrestrained scrabbling for bucks has finally brought the
> >>>>> Western economy to its knees.
> >>>>> The solution is theft. Bush and his friends are now cooking up a a
> >>>>> cunning plan to reward this bad behaviour. He is now planning to steal
> >>>>> 700billion dollars from the tax payers of the USA to hand out to all
> >>>>> his best buddies in the financial markets.
> >>>>> The strategy Bush is using is the same as employed in his invasion of
> >>>>> Iraq - keep the public scared and set the agenda for creating the fear
> >>>>> and providing the "solution".
> >>>>> Bad behaviour that is rewarded always leads to more bad behaviour, as
> >>>>> a teacher I know this much.
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