Did you see the article in Scientific American?
Big Bang or Big Bounce?: New Theory on the Universe's Birth
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=big-bang-or-big-bounce

Cheers!
Sam Carana



On Nov 18, 12:46 pm, "Henry Kroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you like esoteria here is one for you:
>
> *Black diamonds from space indicate age of universe!** ***
>
> *If nobody was there to see it, was there a Big Bang? The whole idea that
> such a titanic explosion could come from a single point the size smaller
> than a Planck length 10E-35 meter and then billions of years later we are
> here to explain it may be a creationest manifestation of reality.  *
>
> *"The instant of creation remains unexplained." ---Professor Allan Guth of
> MIT*
>
> *"The actual point of creation lies outside the scope of present day known
> physics." ---Stephan Hawking   *
>
> *Can science verify a consciousness? Are there watchers who protect us from
> ourselves or is it quantum entanglement? Are we uncouscously shareing
> quantum entanglement? Is there a God consciousness field responsible for
> creation? "Religion without science is blind." What if we could acieve
> consciousness enlightment individually? *
>
> *I am still not convinced that there was a big bang for a number of reasons.
> The newest space telescopes are now seeing galaxies out to 14 billion light
> years and they seem to be speeding away from us at increasing velocities
> nearing the speed of light. For all we know photons might rund down and
> shift to the red after traveling 14-billion light years. We just don't know.
> The Big Bang theory is probably a religious manifestation of reality. *
>
> In fact, the Big Bang theory was invented by the Catholic Church. "What!"
> you say. "I thought Edwin Hubble invented the Big Bang theory." Well, that's
> not quite correct.  A Catholic monk, George Lemaitre, first proposed the Big
> Bang theory in 1927. American, Edwin Hubble published the idea in 1929 two
> years after the Catholic Church grabbed onto the idea. It was Hubble that
> attached the mathematics to the idea in an attempt to make sense of it. The
> Catholics invented the idea to unite the Biblical idea of creation with
> science at the time. You can't make something out of nothing. The
> fundamental laws of physics specifically state this of in order to explain
> the creation of all matter in the universe in an instant from an
> infinitesimally-small, microscopic point you have to have an event with
> infinite energy. The Catholic Church endorsed the Big Bang Theory because it
> fit the Biblical creation paradigm, that there is an infinite God or YHWH.
>
> After Hubble published the theory the Church heralded it as proof that the
> bible was scientifically accurate and "Divine Truth." Scholars have been
> debating the validity of this theory for decades.
>
> *BIG BANG DOES NOT CONTRADICT CREATION*
>
> If the Big Bang theory is a reality, according to my reasoning it does not
> contradict the Biblical six-day creation theory. Say for example, if God
> were going to set off a firecracker big enough to create everything he would
> need at lease a couple days head-start to get his spaceship up to light
> speed before it went off. This might keep him ahead of the blast just far
> enough to survive because he would be traveling at 99.9999 percent the speed
> of light and his time would be slowed down to nothing.
>
> Our present knowledge of physics dictates that 12 to 13 billion years will
> have passed while God traveling near the speed of light only experienced a
> time elapse of three days. He would have had to set the charge just right to
> create third dimensional matter. One way of doing this would be to create
> lots of ORME atoms first which he could control with his brain waves. Then
> he would use these particles to transmute the necessary elements to support
> life in all it various forms.
>
> During the 12 to 14 billion years of time matter was supposed to have
> expanded, destroying and recreated again into its present state God would
> have had to regulate this process with brain waves. It would take God
> another day or so to slow down from light speed, find a suitable world or
> worlds, and push them into the correct orbits to support life.  Then he
> would have to find a moon to regulate the life cycles and get somebody to
> man it. Hence "The Man in The Moon." Then he would have to take off again to
> put a few billion more worlds into orbits everywhere. Finally on the sixth
> day he would come back to find a world teeming with life (dinosaurs) of
> every description. Then he would have to put hunters down there with big
> guns to kill off the dinosaurs.
>
> The oxygen levels would have to be high enough to support animal life so
> obviously he would have to put in orbit near a white dwarf star so that the
> phytoplankton and diatoms would do their job of mopping up the CO2 releasing
> oxygen for so-called higher life forms to breathe.  God would then have to
> kill off most of the animal life that is harmful to man and then create the
> first man to have dominion over what he created. The easiest and most cost
> effective way to do this is to divert a meteor into the Earth. Obviously,
> God had lots of deck-hands or helpers (Angels) to do this.
>
> By this time, advanced civilizations throughout the Universe and planets in
> other galaxies would have had a much longer time to evolve and be capable of
> space travel. They were very interested in Earth because it had such a high
> pressure atmosphere that was 1/3 CO2, the gas necessary for the creation of
> all life, carbon being the perfect molecule to bond cell membranes. The
> great pyramid is a model of a carbon molecule. They would have come to earth
> many times in the past to help mankind evolve. The latest data shows that
> man's DNA is a composite of 22 different alien species. We have lots of
> relatives!
>
> They came down here and took some chimpanzee DNA, mixed in 22 of their own
> specie and turned them loose to see if they would kill each other off. This
> was done to eliminate a galactic war. We do the fighting why they stand back
> and bet on the contestants.
>
> Einstein, being a member of the Christian-Jewish community was forced to go
> along with the Big Bang theory but he had his reservations. He wondered
> where the energy came from in the first place. There was no way he could
> explain an infinitely small space creating enough energy to make everything.
> Then when you get into expansion theory, science turns into science fiction.
>
> There is no way mankind can advance when he lets religion dictate what is
> real and not real. Mankind will never discover the true meaning of God when
> he forces his own ideas upon reality. If he is allowed to persist in this
> fruitless endeavor he will never discover the truth.
>
> So, when did time begin? In Scientific American May 2004 issue: "Science
> does not have a conclusive answer yet, but at least two potentially testable
> theories plausibly hold that the universe-and therefore time-existed well
> before the "big bang" (I don't think there was one). If either scenario is
> right, the cosmos has always been in existence and, even if it re-collapses
> one day, it will never end."
>
> *When will our galaxy collide with Andromeda?***
>
> "Current measurements suggest that, I about 3-billion years, the Milky Way
> and Andromeda may collide." –John Dubendki Hayden Planetarium University of
> Toronto, Canada. This is more evidence that there is no such thing as a big
> bang forcing the universe to expand. Galaxies wouldn't be colliding if they
> are getting further apart!
>
> If the Universe is expanding then why are galaxies colliding? Shouldn't they
> be getting further apart? The huge number of colliding galaxies throw
> another monkey wrench into the big bang theory. Einstein wasn't completely
> convinced that there is such a thing as a big bang but he went along with it
> to placate the status quo. To read more of Einstein's ideas on this subject
> and others read my book, Cosmological Ice 
> Ages.www.GuardDogBooks.com<http://www.guarddogbooks.com/>&www.AlaskaPublishing.com<http://www.alaskapublishing.com/>
>
> *Then there is the fact that as we (our sun) travels through space while
> orbiting the galaxy we encounter very old red dwarf stars. These are burn't
> out crisps so old that they could possibly be left over from prevous big
> bangs. One of these stars is Banard's Star 5.88 light years to the northwest
> coming toward us at 14.5 kilometers per second.*
>
> *All elements decay only it take any billions of years for uranium to turn
> into lead. All the heavy elements above iron are created in stellar
> explosions. The number of heavy elements on the surface of the Earth
> convinces me that the cosmos is very very old. First of all a star has to
> evolve and cook for billions of years until it burns off all the hydrogen.
> Then the helium starts to burn and finally after billions more years it will
> swell up into a giant red or shrink down into a white dwarf. Sometimes the
> explosion is so violent that the star will shrink down into a neutron star
> or even a black hole. All this takes time—impossible measures of time. If we
> knew more we could determine the age of any planet by the carious
> compositions of elements in the crust. A younger planet would have less time
> to collect heavy elements.*
>
> *They built the Panama Canal with black diamonds. The cutting tools used to
> slice through the rock were made of black diamonds. Large black diamonds can
> only come from space. A red dwarf is too hot to make black diamonds and
> stars are definitely too hot so the only other explanation is that they came
> from black dwarfs. *
>
> *The simple fact that black diamonds from space exist is partial proof that
> black dwarfs exist. If black dwarfs are a reality then the universe is tens
> of billions of years older than present estimates—possibly eternal.*
>
> *Stars smaller than our Sun would eventually after tens of billions of years
> use up all their fuel. Carbon bubbling away in the left over hydrogen and
> nitrogen gas for billions of years formed large diamond crystals one meter
> in diameter. Such large diamonds could only have formed under the heat and
> pressure of a burnt out star known as a black ...
>
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