Thatcher was dull and knocked my country back at least 20 years. Now we have to stump-up £10 million to bury her remains. Condolences well taken.
I think the biology lessons can help change the way we describe our economic problems Nom. I doubt sensible people would allow economics if they knew what it was. On Apr 14, 7:56 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > Biology, you say?....maybe that's the way to go.....but in and of itself, > that would seem to be a "longer term" option to solving social, historical, > or broad-sense economic problems....breed yourself a "successful" future > human animal? > > Personally, I think the shorter term way is to communicate... talk about it > and try to resolve it....at the social-societal-cultural levels of human > interactions.....hopefully in such a way to avoid as much strife as > possible......because there might well be strife (there usually is, > experience shows), when all else fails.....(Ultimately, strife can work too > an anarchist might say.... HAR) > > PS.... I heard the news about the passing of former MP Margaret > Thatcher.... I extend my condolences if you wish to hear them.... I > disagreed with a lot of her politics at the time and still do.... > > > > > > > > On Saturday, April 13, 2013 4:43:50 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > > Bill Black's 'The Best Way To Rob A Bank Is To Own One' is the > > classic. > > My own start is in biology. The clever stuff is probably just what a > > biological individual is - much more difficult than most suppose (a > > start at SEP on 'biological individual'). > > Some readings on ethology, brain science and life history systems > > throw a bit more light. Ecology follows and climate and weather > > systems and catastrophes. We safely know most of this - unlike daft > > stuff like homo economicus in economics. > > Knowing some essential biology we might decide what we need is to work > > out what resources we have and how to share them in the co-evolution > > we are part of. I doubt we'd come up with economics and suggest we'd > > junk it along wit other religions. > > > On Apr 10, 4:18 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > and another....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Finance_fraud > > > > Problem is......most of this "stuff" is of such a "technical" sort that > > the > > > ordinary person doesn't know to deal with it.... > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:02:35 AM UTC-4, nominal9 wrote: > > > > >http://www.fraudaid.com/dictionary-of-financial-scam-terms/ > > > > > Here's a website that caught my fancy.... looks like it could be > > useful as > > > > a primer.... > > > > > On Friday, April 5, 2013 5:53:31 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > > > >> It's simpler than we might suppose Nom. There are a number of cash > > > >> systems in which to lose money - the hawala systems - various names - > > > >> 'ching' around Hongkong. I put cash in here and can collect (less > > > >> commission) more or less anywhere. In the banks I might put the > > money > > > >> in here, send it to Cayman and from there New York - the banks are > > > >> bent on such transfers and someone in NY would recode the Cayman > > money > > > >> before sending it to you. One technique is to starburst cash to > > > >> hundreds of points. Somewhere the stuff has to go through a blocked > > > >> point that can send the cops a 'none of your business' ticket due to > > > >> jurisdiction failure. I might buy US property (your estate agents > > are > > > >> not subject to money-laundering legislation) and hen borrow on that > > > >> property. I might even set up a false legal claim against you, pay > > > >> the fees and call off the case, recollecting the cash from the bent > > > >> lawyers. You might buy a load of gizmos from me, but I buy with bent > > > >> money, ship to you and then collect the cash you raise - all less > > > >> commissions of course. Simple smuggling is still very common. > > > >> People with Swiss bank accounts are now running scared. They take > > out > > > >> the cash in Zurich and get it smuggled back to them as gold through > > > >> the drug-running monetary system. I doubt you or I would trust > > > >> druggies to carry $50 dollars of our money - which rather suggests > > > >> these rich are in league with organised crime - otherwise no trust to > > > >> do this stuff. > > > > >> I could crack any of these schemes as a cop - much as we used to use > > > >> test purchase scams to catch drug-dealers - but most of them are > > legal > > > >> or 'protected'. In a typical transfer pricing scam we send our > > > >> profits abroad where all the money is "lost" in non-existent > > > >> management costs - the cash stays offshore but we claim a tax loss > > > >> here (UK or US). This is theft. Given the use of offshore like this > > > >> is claimed to reduce costs I doubt any jury would not convict for > > > >> theft - but no judge would let them hear the real story - the > > > >> management would claim to operate in Delaware. > > > >> McKinsey just estimated $32 trillion are held in this system. I > > > >> suspect secret services know about all of it and have a vested > > > >> interest in not exposing it via criminal trials. This may be about > > to > > > >> change as they erase the tracks to their involvement. > > > > >> On shorting I also suspect the simple explanation it is done through > > > >> insider knowledge rather than the claimed alpha intelligence. > > > > >> On Apr 4, 3:47 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_%28finance%29 > > > >> > I basically get the notion of "selling short"......but, there too, > > > >> there is > > > >> > a paper trail (identity of scam and scammers). Ultimately, it gets > > to a > > > >> > question of an outside "third party" being asked to pay the > > > >> > difference.....that's the scam....(you know that as well as > > [better] > > > >> than > > > >> > I).....If "some" folks care to gamble... they should do it with > > their > > > >> own > > > >> > money.... or shares....and pay their own difference... or be > > "punished" > > > >> if > > > >> > they renege....I mean, that's the "ideal" form of the deal, isn't > > > >> it?.... > > > >> > Banks or money reservoirs should be regulated to that > > effect....Where's > > > >> the > > > >> > "flaw" in the "ideal", I ask you? > > > > >> > On Thursday, April 4, 2013 10:17:49 AM UTC-4, nominal9 wrote: > > > > >> > > I like your scam scenario explanation.... it sounds "verisimilar" > > > >> (one of > > > >> > > those big words I like to show off with every now and then... > > heck, > > > >> if I > > > >> > > had to learn it, I might as well use it, right?). > > > > >> > > You know that I am "specific naive" when it comes to financial > > terms > > > >> and > > > >> > > "instruments"... but can you explain to me why it is that the > > actual > > > >> > > "thieves" and scammers get (identity) lost in the "shell game", > > > >> doesn't > > > >> > > each piece of debt paper or transaction (is supposed to) have a > > name > > > >> on it? > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:20:17 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > > > >> > >> That's about the half of it Nom. We might know more about how > > > >> Cyprus > > > >> > >> was looted by the end of next week and who is really paying. I > > > >> > >> predict the hot money will turn out to have gone in the months > > > >> before, > > > >> > >> the take over of Cyprus banks in Greece (done in all haste > > > >> preventing > > > >> > >> due diligence before the crash and leaving bad Greek debt in > > Cyprus) > > > >> > >> may prove to have been an unload of RHD by foreign banks. > > British > > > >> > >> banks have unloaded half their exposure to Greece in the last > > three > > > >> > >> years - raising questions about who bought the magic beans and > > at > > > >> what > > > >> > >> price (if they had to sell low - I guess hey must as you and I > > would > > > >> > >> have been smart enough not to buy the RHD - then where are the > > > >> write- > > > >> > >> offs) and whether any investment packages they were in were sold > > > >> > >> honestly. I'm inclined to think Cyprus is no accident and the > > > >> > >> banksters may be able to manipulate such crashes. Whilst w > > wouldn't > > > >> > >> buy the magic beans from each other (scared of giants as we > > are), I > > > >> > >> suspect the deal runs more like this: > > > > >> > >> Neil: Nom - I have an offer you can't refuse. > > > >> > >> Nom. Screw you limey. > > > >> > >> Neil. Peace brother, we'll both make a killing. Switch to the > > > >> > >> scambler (no typo) phone. Buy as much eu periphery rocking > > horse > > > >> shit > > > >> > >> as you can find. You should get it at 10 cents on the dollar. > > I'll > > > >> > >> give you 80 for it all. > > > >> > >> Nom. Good deal for me, what's your cut? > > > >> > >> Neil. We'll go 50:50 on the net after we pay off Pedro. > > > >> > >> Nom. What's Pedro got to do with this? > > > >> > >> Neil. He runs the Spanish bank buying the rocking horse shit. > > When > > > >> > >> Spain goes down the toilet holding all the losses he'll throw in > > the > > > >> > >> incompetence joker while we sort him with a new identity and a > > sack > > > >> of > > > >> > >> cash to soothe his conscience over the small matter of > > bankrupting > > > >> his > > > >> > >> fellow countrymen. > > > >> > >> Nom. I love these crimes where no one gets hurt. How much will > > the > > > >> EU > > > >> > >> and depositor bail in be on this one? > > > >> > >> Neil. $250 billion. We'll go short on Spain. Italy, Luxembourg > > and > > > >> > >> the Netherlands to pick up on the death-throes of the EU > > > > >> > >> The actual fraud network will be a bit more complex and our > > secret > > > >> > >> services will be involved. Do you know where Dr. No's island > > is? > > > > >> > >> On Mar 27, 5:28 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21948429 > > > > >> > >> > Major UK banks must raise a total of £25bn in extra capital by > > the > > > >> end > > > >> > >> of > > > >> > >> > 2013 to guard against potential losses, the Bank of England > > (BoE) > > > >> has > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
