On 14. Jan 2008, at 17:28, Gordon Erlebacher wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I got a 3 node (2 pipes on one, 1 pipe on another), working
> from my local site. Works between several HP xw6400, but not
> when I include kirk (a xw9300). It has a different CPU. I'll worry
> about this later.

Afaik these are all Opterons - so that shouldn't matter.

>
>
> We tried the lucy.ply file. It has 14,000,000 vertices, takes 1.3  
> Gbytes
> of memory. Could not get eqPly.64 to work.

Does it crash, or simply not respond?

> We suspect that it takes
> a very long time to create the k-d tree.

Could be. If you set the log level to INFO, you should see some prints
during the kd-tree creation. Once it's created, you can copy
it to all clients.


> So several thoughts arise:
>
> 1) why should the entire file be on every computer? One can imagine
> that people (I know some) do computations on a remote machine with
> multiple CPUs and a part of their data is already on each machine.

Because it allows a simpler implementation. The data structure
allows out-of-core visualization, but nobody had the time to
implement that in eqPly yet.

We are thinking of evolving a version of eqPly into an application
(vs. example code).


> 2) There could be a ply preprocessor that divides the file off-line.
> then reading it would be much more efficient.

Correct. Another way is to load the model on the application node
and distribute it via eqNet::Objects. Render clients would only
partially map the objects needed. This has the advantage that the
application can modify data, which is then sync'ed to the clients.


> 3) Have you, Stefan, or anybody, every tried very large polygonal  
> models?

A colleague at the University did test the David 1mm data set for a
to-be-published paper. I don't know the size for it, but maybe he'll
jump in. He'll also be able to give you a ballpark figure for the
kd-tree creation time.


Cheers,

Stefan.


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