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Scott,

What works for me...I always talk to God. I tell him come on BIG guy,
quite messing around! Give me a chance. Then after that if I mess up I
usually just go around and do it again, and again and again...usually
after the 2,379th time I start to feel "a little loose" and I'm getting
the hang of it! Well, the landing gear is still attached anyway! 
One thing I have learned (the hard way), 100% for sure is that if the
fuel line splits open (on the side facing the engine block (and you did
not see it during pre-flight)), that's NOT a good thing! Especially when
on final approach! I found myself landing when and where I didn't want
to. Nerves, can you say "dry mouth"? I know, not with a dry mouth! Ha,
ha. At least I didn't break anything, especially my neck! Thanks God. 

Scott, Keep the faith amigo, hang in there, you are going to end up
being one of the best pilots out there!   

Flyin' Bob

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From: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Check Ride

Well, folks, after 1 year of lessons, finally got my checkride and
pulled a pink.

I decided to use a 172 so I would not be limited to an Ercoupe. 

Checkride

After calling ATIS before I flew to the airport where the examiner was,
I was relieved that one of the westerly runways was open (they are doing
a lot of work on the runways)

During that 15 minute flight to the airport, ATIS changed and the
remaining west runway closed, leaving a north-south runway (17) and a X
wind from 230-240 at up to 10 knots. 

Long wait for the examiner

Nerves

Did I mention nerves?

I pull off all the required takeoffs and landings

Overtake an aircraft in the pattern who must have been practicing his
cross country work at the same time...
he was all over the place. My bad tho...thou must leave space

Helicopter enters the runway when I am over the numbers on final - just
hovers - I was like a deer in the headlights - which way to go? tower
screaming at him. I should have called in to the tower. What do you do
with a copter in that situation?

Hoodwork, unusual attitude recovery...no problem.

Diversion after hood work - despite severe haze, I thought I knew where
I was. WRONG!!

Next thing I knew, The examiner took the controls - Sorry, can't let you
fly into Mexico Check ride over

I was also weak in heavy traffic, although after the helicopter
incident, I was pretty rattled.

I am not complaining - I want to be the best and safest pilot I can be,
but man what a day!!!

Anyone else out there have a checkride story to commiserate with? I am
pretty dissapointed.

Scott







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From: "A DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Reply-To: "A DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Check Ride

Scott;
You did well and you'll get another shot at it.  Learn from your
mistakes.  When I took my checkride, we found out that everyone had
miscalculated my hours and I didn't have enough!
  
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Well, folks, after 1 year of lessons, finally got my checkride and
pulled a pink.

  I decided to use a 172 so I would not be limited to an Ercoupe. 



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From: "heavensounds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "heavensounds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Check Ride

Scott

You have to bounce back from this temporary setback. 
Make sure you write down everything you need to improve while it is
fresh on your mind and work on it thoroughly with your CFI. You will
have to do that in the C172, if that's the plane you will use on the
checkride.
Hope you get your license soon.
You have our support.

Eliacim Cortes
N87071
 




  
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  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:56 PM
  Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Check Ride


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Well, folks, after 1 year of lessons, finally got my checkride and
pulled a pink.

  I decided to use a 172 so I would not be limited to an Ercoupe. 

  Checkride

  After calling ATIS before I flew to the airport where the examiner
was, I was relieved that
  one of the westerly runways was open (they are doing a lot of work on
the runways)

  During that 15 minute flight to the airport, ATIS changed and the
remaining west runway closed, leaving a north-south
  runway (17) and a X wind from 230-240 at up to 10 knots. 

  Long wait for the examiner

  Nerves

  Did I mention nerves?

  I pull off all the required takeoffs and landings

  Overtake an aircraft in the pattern who must have been practicing his
cross country work at the same time...
  he was all over the place. My bad tho...thou must leave space

  Helicopter enters the runway when I am over the numbers on final -
just hovers - I was like a deer in the headlights -
  which way to go? tower screaming at him. I should have called in to
the tower. What do you do with a copter in that situation?

  Hoodwork, unusual attitude recovery...no problem.

  Diversion after hood work - despite severe haze, I thought I knew
where I was. WRONG!!

  Next thing I knew, The examiner took the controls - Sorry, can't let
you fly into Mexico
  Check ride over

  I was also weak in heavy traffic, although after the helicopter
incident, I was pretty rattled.

  I am not complaining - I want to be the best and safest pilot I can
be, but man what a day!!!

  Anyone else out there have a checkride story to commiserate with? I am
pretty dissapointed.

  Scott






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From: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'scott'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Cflyin" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Check Ride

 

Scott,

 

You've got all our sympathy.  It's frustrating as can be.  We all go to
the checkride with sweaty palms and a churning stomach.

 

Also, keep in mind that any checkride failure counts against your
instructor's CFI rating, too.  He has a vested interest in your passing
on the next try.  You WILL pass on the next try!

 

When you go back for the re-check keep this in mind:  the basic
criterion is that "the outcome of the maneuver shall not be in doubt."
In short, he has to be confident that you'll keep your passengers and
yourself alive.

 

If there's an obstruction like a helicopter and you go around, that's a
pass.

 

My examiner told me to do a short field, soft field, crosswind landing.
On the approach, I saw I was too high and so I told him I was too high
and would have to go around for a short field landing and asked would he
like me to actually go around or go ahead and do the soft field
crosswind landing part because I had enough runway to do that safely.

 

He liked that I was aware and made the good choice and did not ask me to
do it again.

 

If a maneuver isn't going right and you say so and show that you know
what's going on and choose a safe option, you may well be allowed to do
it again.
Always choose for safety.

 

As for the helicopter over the runway, Ken Dravis' song "Go Around" is
good to sing to yourself during approach.

 

"You can always go around

If it don't look right coming down

Don't wait until you're sideways maybe sliding on the ground

You can always go around

 

I know back when I learned to fly

my instructor was yellin in my ear

power in, carb heat cold, climb out pitch, flaps to go

take it round the patch, one more time again

 

I know now, he was showin' me 

that just because the nose is pointing down

if it doesn't look right, give it one more try

you can always go around"

 

There's more to the song and it's funny while being good advice.  And,
it's set to a bouncy, catchy tune that's fun to sing to yourself as you
fly the pattern.

 

Ken Dravis is a corporate pilot, type rated in Citations, who wrote
songs about flying and recorded them.  I first heard about him at
Sun-N-Fun when I was coming back from some program and he was singing in
one of the forum shelters with midi instruments for background.  And he
was good and the songs were about flying.

 

I love the one where his wife is nagging him on a weekend about mowing
the grass and he decides he needs to see if it looks long from the air.

 

And there's a touching one about the boy at the airport fence.

 

Some of his songs are funny, some are thoughtful, a couple are
cautionary.
All are very good.  Professional quality.  Recommended!

http://www.kendravis.com/ 

 

Ed Burkhead

http://edburkhead.com

ed -at- edburkhead???.com          (change -at- to @ and remove "???")

 



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