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1. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Airline Food
2. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Airline Food
3. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
4. [COUPERS-FLYIN] insurance subrogation
5. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
6. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
7. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Norhwest Ercoupe Gathering
8. [COUPERS-FLYIN] NW Ercoupe gathering
9. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] insurance subrogation
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Airline Food
An attendant on a cross-country flight nervously announced: "I don't know
how this happened, but we have 103 passengers aboard and only 40 dinners."
When the passengers' muttering had died down, she continued, "Anyone who
is kind enough to give up his meal so someone else can eat will receive
free drinks for the length of the flight."
Her next announcement came an hour later. "If anyone wants to change his
mind, we still have 29 dinners available
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From: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Airline Food
Good one Don! I want to get on THAT flight.
Spook
--- DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
An attendant on a cross-country flight nervously
announced: "I don't know how this happened, but we
have 103 passengers aboard and only 40 dinners."
When the passengers' muttering had died down, she
continued, "Anyone who is kind enough to give up
his meal so someone else can eat will receive free
drinks for the length of the flight."
Her next announcement came an hour later. "If
anyone wants to change his mind, we still have 29
dinners available
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
Hey Couper's: I would like to obtain insurance on an Ercoupe that I do not
own, for my grandson to learn to fly in. I called my broker, whom I have
had
insurance through for many years, and she attempted to obtain a quote. She
indicated up front that she only knew of one company, Colonial I believe,
that
would quote on a 16 year old student pilot.
The broker has called me back and indicated that the three insurance
companies she thought would possibly give a quote all turned it down
because of
the airplane (1946 Ercoupe serial # 1777) It is hangared at AVO, and the
training would take place there.
I have called AVEMCO, and they indicated they would give non owner's
insurance. but would not list any named pilots. This basically limits the
policy
to cover a mistake made by my grandson only.
Have any of you obtained insurance on an Ercoupe with a 16 year old
student pilot? Or do any of you know whom I can call that can/will obtain
the
coverage? (I would like $25 K hull and 1 million liability, and be able
to cover
named pilots like the flight instructor. owner, and me)
Lynn Nelsen
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From: Tom Morehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: Tom Morehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] insurance subrogation
Speaking of insurance ...
Has anyone been subjected to subrogation by an insurance company?
Say I rent a plane at an fbo (if only they rented Ercoupes!). The fbo
provides insurance to cover any damage to the plane I might cause.
As I'm coming in to land, a gust catches me. I don't correct fast
enough, and the gust blows me off the side of the runway. The plane
suffers $10,000 damage.
The fbo's insurance company pays the full $10,000 to repair the plane;
the fbo suffers no financial loss.
But their insurance company then comes after me, using their right of
subrogation, and sues me for $10,000. I'm the guy they think "caused"
the damage, so they hold me responsible to reimburse them for what they
paid the fbo.
If I had $10K hull coverage in my own insurance, I probably wouldn't
lose $10K. I've heard that subrogation happens, but wondered if anyone
here has any personal experience. While I'm taking lessons, should I
get full hull coverage for the most expensive plane I rent, regardless
of what the plane's owner says s/he has in insurance coverage?
Thanks.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
Lynn
I would try Falcon, through the EAA.
Regards
Eliacim
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Hey Couper's: I would like to obtain insurance on an Ercoupe that I do
not
own, for my grandson to learn to fly in. I called my broker, whom I have
had
insurance through for many years, and she attempted to obtain a quote.
She
indicated up front that she only knew of one company, Colonial I believe,
that
would quote on a 16 year old student pilot.
The broker has called me back and indicated that the three insurance
companies she thought would possibly give a quote all turned it down
because
of
the airplane (1946 Ercoupe serial # 1777) It is hangared at AVO, and the
training would take place there.
I have called AVEMCO, and they indicated they would give non owner's
insurance. but would not list any named pilots. This basically limits
the
policy
to cover a mistake made by my grandson only.
Have any of you obtained insurance on an Ercoupe with a 16 year old
student pilot? Or do any of you know whom I can call that can/will
obtain
the
coverage? (I would like $25 K hull and 1 million liability, and be able
to
cover
named pilots like the flight instructor. owner, and me)
Lynn Nelsen
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From: Kenneth Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Reply-To: Kenneth Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe insurance
Lynn,
Check with Butler & Brown Insurance out of Iowa. I think their phone
number is 800-934-7763. They provide insurance to people that belong
to the Antique Airplane Association, and the Coupe qualifies. Heck,
they insured me when I had no Coupe hours and hadn't flown in 20
years. That can't be much different than Joel learning fresh.
Ken
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Hey Couper's: I would like to obtain insurance on an Ercoupe that I
do not own, for my grandson to learn to fly in. I called my broker,
whom I have had insurance through for many years, and she attempted
to obtain a quote. She indicated up front that she only knew of one
company, Colonial I believe, that would quote on a 16 year old student
pilot.
The broker has called me back and indicated that the three
insurance companies she thought would possibly give a quote all
turned it down because of the airplane (1946 Ercoupe serial # 1777)
It is hangared at AVO, and the training would take place there.
I have called AVEMCO, and they indicated they would give non
owner's insurance. but would not list any named pilots. This
basically limits the policy to cover a mistake made by my grandson only.
Have any of you obtained insurance on an Ercoupe with a 16 year
old student pilot? Or do any of you know whom I can call that
can/will obtain the coverage? (I would like $25 K hull and 1
million liability, and be able to cover named pilots like the
flight instructor. owner, and me)
Lynn Nelsen
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From: "richard logston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ercoupers Flyin" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "richard logston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Norhwest Ercoupe Gathering
Attention Northwest Ercoupers!!!! Reminder August 12-13th Is fast
approaching. Can I have a show of hands if you plan on attending and if
so, will you be camping overnight or staying in a motel? Thanks Dick
Logston 3041H
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From: "richard logston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ercoupers Flyin" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "richard logston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] NW Ercoupe gathering
This is a follow up the my prior post, I forgot to say where the flyin is
being held. HOQUIAM, WASHINGTON BOWERMAN FIELD on the coast. HQM 122.70
awos 135.77 Most of you probably knew that anyway. Last year we had 12
coupes on the flight line and two in the hanger for repair. Dick Logston
3041H
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From: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Morehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]>
Reply-To: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] insurance subrogation
Tom,
I just purchased renters insurance for that very reason...
The aircraft rental agency's insurance company went after a customer
recently.
I do not know the details but subrogation is alive and well.
Clubs often have better coverage.
Scott
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From: "Tom Morehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] insurance subrogation
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Speaking of insurance ...
Has anyone been subjected to subrogation by an insurance company?
Say I rent a plane at an fbo (if only they rented Ercoupes!). The fbo
provides insurance to cover any damage to the plane I might cause.
As I'm coming in to land, a gust catches me. I don't correct fast
enough, and the gust blows me off the side of the runway. The plane
suffers $10,000 damage.
The fbo's insurance company pays the full $10,000 to repair the plane;
the fbo suffers no financial loss.
But their insurance company then comes after me, using their right of
subrogation, and sues me for $10,000. I'm the guy they think "caused"
the damage, so they hold me responsible to reimburse them for what they
paid the fbo.
If I had $10K hull coverage in my own insurance, I probably wouldn't
lose $10K. I've heard that subrogation happens, but wondered if anyone
here has any personal experience. While I'm taking lessons, should I
get full hull coverage for the most expensive plane I rent, regardless
of what the plane's owner says s/he has in insurance coverage?
Thanks.
Tom
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