Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Cleveland Wheels and Brakes

Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:44:23 -0700 

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Kevin.
I think Percy explained his experience on spending money on something he did not need and having to pay twice for it. First with money, then with dragging brakes . All without a reason, other than to be "modern" or "advanced".
I flew with the Goodyears and the Clevelands and could not feel much difference in the handling. The Clevelands are the simpler design, parts for Goodyears are at scarce - if you need them. Both systems however rely on the power of your master cylinder. I found the original one from ERCO not as sufficient as one would wish.
Both systems need to be bleeded correctly. I think that a lot of  performance is sacrificed when air is still in the system, especially with the Goodyears.
 
Of course, one can overdo it - like in Percy's case.
 
Hartmut
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Gassert
To: Wood, Percy
Cc: jack.hirsch ; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Cleveland Wheels and Brakes

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Percy,

I don't understand your reply. Are you saying that you bought some used Clevelands that were not installed correctly so they dragged and that therefore they should be avoided? 

Kevin


On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Wood, Percy wrote:

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“What people tell you depends on what they are trying to sell.”

  I had the Clevelands put on my plane and was not too happy.  They were probably hanging around this guy’s hangar, and he saw an opportunity. 

First off, I found the stopper to the brake fluid container rolling around on top of it!  Secondly, it took near take off power to get out of the parking spot.

When it broke ground for the first flight, there was a definite surge of acceleration!  Finally, there was very little give to the brake pedal.

  Basically, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”  The problems with what you have are that they don’t hold real securely for a runup and the parts are hard to find.

If you go the Cleveland route, please consider a new master cylinder from Matco.  That will work better with the Cleveland pistons.

           Percy in NM, USA

From: jack.hirsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 7:44 AM
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Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Cleveland Wheels and Brakes

 
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Hello,

I am new to the Ercoupe family – N3667H serial 4292 is a 415C.  It still has the Goodyear wheels and brakes.  Does anyone have a set of Clevelands they would like to sell??  Wrecked plane perhaps, or know of anyone who parts out planes.


 

Thanks

Jack


 

 

J.M. Hirsch

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