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Jeff, you are correct.

All I was saying is that whether or not the changes were approved and a
new AW Cert issued and whether or not the paperwork was properly handled,
if any paperwork was recorded by the FAA - say a 337 showing the higher
gross weight  as in this case -  one is going to find it a bit difficult
to convince the FAA to allow it to qualify LSA.  A lot depends upon one's
FSDO and PMI. Plus, as Jeff listed, one will also have the paperwork to
sort out which could be a real can of worms.

Tom Graziano
A&P, I.A.






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> In addition to the changes listed in TCDS A-787 and A-718, there is also
> Ercoupe Information Letter N0.1 dated Jan. 1,1956. This states that after
> all necessary work has been completed and changes made, an FAA inspector
> must inspect the aircraft. Unless this has been complied with and a new
> airworthiness certificate issued, the conversion was not done correctly.
> Therefore any aircraft operating at increased gross weights are doing so
> illegally. Simply because part of the process was completed does not  mean
> that the changes were approved. If you have an aircraft with a data plate
> that does not match you airworthiness certificate you are in violation. I
> have been told by my FSDO that a model change can not be made without an
> inspector physically inspecting the aircraft and verifying the changes
> have been made, at which time an airworthiness certificate would be
> issued. Until both 337 and airwothiness cert. have been complied with the
> aircraft can not be legally operated at the increased gross weight.
> Therefore if the entire conversion process was not completed the aircraft
> can not be considered to have been operated outside of its original
> weight.
> ~Jeff Fallon
>   N789JJ
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> If the 337 was recorded and is on file with the FAA - as in this case - it
> will not be LSA eligible since it is considered to have been upgraded to
> the higher gross weight of the 415D. TCDS A-787 applies even though it's
> still listed as a 415C on the AW Cert.
>
> Tom Graziano
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>>> Ed Burkhart Wrote:
>>>
>> Aircraft Specification A-787 explicitly allows all the postwar 415-C and
>> 415-CD models to be converted to 415-D and be allowed the 1400 lb. gross
>> weight limit.  Many have been converted but whether they were done
>> "officially" is open to debate since many of these never got a new
>> airworthiness certificate.
>>
>>
>> The FAA CD has an approved 337 dated 6/4/77 that states "Up graded A/C
>> N-93932 Ercoupe 415C to 415D model by authority of Skyport Aircoupe
>> Service & Ercoupe Service Memorandum SMK-1, SMK48, SMK46 & SMK-3XX"
>>
>> The latest (7/17/56) Airworthiness Certificate in the file has the ship
>> listed as a 415-C.  So it appears that there was not a new airworthiness
>> certificate issued after the modification.
>>
>> Where does that leave an pilot who needs to operate the ship as a LSA?
>> The C model is OK, but the D has a gross weight that puts it outside the
>> LSA limits.
>>
>> Dan Brown
>> Annapolis, MD
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