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Absolutely! They have all the motivation in the world to find out anything 
that keeps them from paying.
Eliacim
 

Quoting roger anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I was talking to FSDO today and we both agreed that it's not the FAA anymore
> 
> that you really need to worry about.  It's your insurance company.  After 
> the accident, they are going to be looking for anything to make it an 
> uninsured flight.  roger
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "roger anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Dan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] model 415-CD history
> 
> 
> > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any 
> > advice in this forum.]----
> >
> >
> > Having read everybody's comments, I would say that if I were out there 
> > buying
> > a sport compliant Ercoupe, I would consider any piece of paper whatsoever 
> > (log
> > entry, 337) documenting the change away from C or CD, a deal killer.
> >
> > Sure, some FSDO's would call it sport compliant if the airworthness
> > certificate never changed away from C or CD, but other FSDOs would not.
> >
> > At some point, the inconsistency could cause the FAA to issue a 
> > clarification,
> > which could just accept any documentation in record, as evidence of the 
> > change.
> >
> > Again, just my humble opinion, if I were looking for one for myself. 
> > Everybody
> > has a different tolerance for risk...
> >
> > Eliacim Cortes
> > N87071
> > 415-C 1946
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting roger anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
> >> advice in this forum.]----
> >>
> >>
> >> If any  aircraft  is modified with an STC, and that STC calls for the 
> >> data
> >> plate to be changed to reflect a  new model number,  then a new 
> >> airworthiness
> >> certificate is needed.  If a new airworthiness certificate was not 
> >> requested
> >> however (and it must be requested) , even though  the data plate was 
> >> changed
> >> as required, then the FAA would consider that aircraft to be  the 
> >> original
> >> model in their records.  However, the aircraft would have incorrect 
> >> paperwork
> >> then since data plates and airworthiness certificates must match.  Also,
> >> aircraft can be changed by STCs that don't change the model number, such 
> >> as
> >> an Aeronca Champ with a "no bounce" gear installed.  The Champ remains a 
> >> 7AC
> >> and the 337 may or may not have  incresed its gross to 1400 lbs and 
> >> outside
> >> the LSA range.  If it was increased although it's still a 7AC, it is no
> >> longer and never will be LSA.  Same with a Coupe.  Regardless of what the
> >> airworthiness certificate says, if a 337 was ever submitted after D 
> >> changes
> >> were made and it reflects that the gross weight was increased to 1400 
> >> lbs, it
> >> is not now or will it ever be LSA.  Airworthiness certificates alone 
> >> don't
> >> really mean anything.  roger
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Dan Brown
> >>   Cc: Ctech
> >>   Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:59 AM
> >>   Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] model 415-CD history
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Ed Burkhart Wrote:
> >>
> >>   Aircraft Specification A-787 explicitly allows all the postwar 415-C 
> >> and
> >> 415-CD models to be converted to 415-D and be allowed the 1400 lb. gross
> >> weight limit.  Many have been converted but whether they were done
> >> "officially" is open to debate since many of these never got a new
> >> airworthiness certificate.
> >>
> >>
> >>   The FAA CD has an approved 337 dated 6/4/77 that states "Up graded A/C
> >> N-93932 Ercoupe 415C to 415D model by authority of Skyport Aircoupe 
> >> Service &
> >> Ercoupe Service Memorandum SMK-1, SMK48, SMK46 & SMK-3XX"
> >>
> >>   The latest (7/17/56) Airworthiness Certificate in the file has the ship
> >> listed as a 415-C.  So it appears that there was not a new airworthiness
> >> certificate issued after the modification.
> >>
> >>   Where does that leave an pilot who needs to operate the ship as a LSA? 
> >> The
> >> C model is OK, but the D has a gross weight that puts it outside the LSA
> >> limits.
> >>
> >>   Dan Brown
> >>   Annapolis, MD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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