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I don't know what to say, AJ. You are probably right in all directions.
But the problem we are seeing here is that the society does not recognize
that flying in itself is a commitment to a risk. Even a perfect and new
aircraft can be crashed.
As can a car. If an idiot drives against a wall with high speed, he will
experience certainly problems.
But cars these days can be made to even withstand that abuse.
Airplanes on the other hand are limited in many ways.
I think the problem lies therein that the society compares airplane to cars
when it comes to accidents.
I wish they would do that also in general.

However. I do understand these list are available to the public and it is in
our own interest to be cautious in our statements.

Hartmut
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ctech Tech" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] header tank


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>
> And steel is stronger than stainless.  Your opinion means nothing to the
> bigwigs, but anyway I'm nominating you to be the next director of the FAA.
> Maybe then we'll get some relief.
>
> I'm not going to get into the legality of an owner making a part when they
> are still available through the manufacturer, or the fact that there are
> probably no drawings or engineering data to support making some parts, or
> the actual intent of the regulation when it was put into place.  Let's
allow
> that sleeping dog to lie and not stir up a discussion because eventually
the
> little guy always loses, beleive me.  Regardless of what an FAA
inspector's
> written opinion states and what you choose to beleive, let's just leave it
> alone so it can float in the muddy waters it has entered.  So far it's
been
> good for all of us.
>
> In this litigious society, it would be very easy for either the victim or
> victim's estate of an airplane accident to quickly have a service conduct
a
> professional Google search for anything related to the plane, the type or
> part that may come into question.  For example, if a fire was started due
to
> a ruptured tank, any tank, and it was found that a tank was put together
> from stock, it would indeed raise the question of who checked it and what
> specific qualifications they had, and are they better than the expert
> qualifications of the person brought in to testify?  However any doubt can
> be cast onto anyone else other than the victim will help the case.
>
> I have an acquaintance who is active in the warbird community.  One of the
> planes he loves is the T34, the Beech Mentor trainer.  Not long ago, some
> silly combat school probably (no, definitely according to the VHS tape),
> operated this 40+ year old airframe way out of the envelope causing a wing
> to separate, decapitating the customer occupant and crashing killing the
> pilot.  This gentleman owned that particular airplane many years ago and
> retrofitted it with a larger engine, according to an accepted STC (a real
> one!).  He was named in the suit as a person who modified the aircraft.
> Although eventually dropped, his legal costs exceeded $225,000.  In the
same
> suit, the estate is personally suing each and every one of the victim's
> friends that came along for the action that day.  Sick?  How about this -
> same guy was also named in another Mentor accident suit because he was "A
> Known Enthusiast" of the type.  A quick payoff of $75K made that one go
> away.  The guy has deep pockets, so the lawyers go after him just for
shits
> and giggles.
>
> So, you think a casual mention on a little email group can't be brought
back
> to life?  Think again.  Think again, then think again.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hartmut Beil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ctech Tech" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] header tank
>
>
> > Think that the FAA or the Homeland Security will scan articles for
> > violations to the FAA rules?
> > Big brother watching and PUNISHING you?
> > I understand that if you are the owner of an aircraft you can provide
and
> > make parts for your plane.
> > Right?
> > Of course when it goes structural one should assure in his/her own
> > interest
> > the required quality.
> > A stainless steel tank is in my eyes an improvement.
> >
> > Hartmut
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ctech Tech" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] header tank
> >
> >
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> >>
> >> Yes!  Let us all remember that these conversations are very public and
> >> forever archived.  If you don't want something biting you in the ass in
> > the
> >> both near and distant future, be selective and accurate in your
> >> descriptions.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "James B. Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Ctech Tech" <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:08 PM
> >> Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] header tank
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> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I was confused... that tank I had installed was actually a
used,
> >> > repaired Ercoupe part - I was thinking of another guy who had a tank
> >> > fabricated for his plane.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Brennan
> >> >
> >> >
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