----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any 
advice in this forum.]----


Lee,

Quite a while ago, there was a big debate and discussion on this list about 
the legalities of using an automotive fuel pump, or automotive fuel pump parts, 
on an Ercoupe/Aircoupe.  You should be able to look up that discussion in the 
archives if you are interested.

I'm not going to get into another debate on this subject, but the short story 
is that I believe that you can't legally use an automotive fuel pump or parts 
of the pump without the proper paperwork being completed.  Others disagree.  
Maybe I am wrong.  It has happened before.

Below is the response that I wrote once before when this subject came up. The 
info about the three different types of pumps, and the differences, and 
over-stroking and under-stroking the pump came from an AC Delco engineer who 
worked 
in the fuel pump division of AC Delco.  I spoke with him personally back in 
the mid 80's.  

 
  
In a message dated 10/23/2005 3:53:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ######## 
writes:
Have had no luck on finding an old Ford or Case tractor pump. Any other Ideas.

 
########,
 
I don't understand why you are looking for an old Ford or Case tractor fuel 
pump.  The fuel pumps for these Continental engines have specific part numbers 
that are to be used for the specific models of the engine.  The difference 
between the part numbers is in the design and geometry of the fuel pump 
actuator 
arm and linkage.  If the wrong pump is used on an engine, the pump will either 
be over-stroked or under-stroked.  If the pump is over-stroked, the mechanism 
could bind and the arm could break off, falling in the crankcase and wiping 
out the engine.  If the pump is under-stroked, the pump will not keep the 
header tank full.  If either of these events occur and you end up crashing the 
plane, the insurance company will have a perfectly valid reason to walk away 
from 
your claim 
 
Why don't you get the correct new pump from Skyport or Aircraft Spruce or any 
of the other places that sell them? 
 
Every time I read about someone using an unapproved part in an airplane I am 
reminded of the accident report about the Piper Cherokee that caught fire in 
flight, crashed and killed four people.  The cause of the in-flight fire was 
that some "mechanic" used an unapproved clamp on the exhaust system.  Seems 
that 
the approved part had a small alignment pin built into it that kept the clamp 
in position when the exhaust system expanded and contracted.  The unapproved 
automotive part didn't have the little pin built into it.  The exhaust system 
came apart in flight and four people died.  The sad part is that these four 
people didn't even know about the decision that had been made that led to them 
being killed.  Nobody asked them their opinion about using an automotive 
exhaust clamp. 
 
This article should be required reading for every airplane owner who thinks 
he or she is smarter than the engineers who specified which part to use where.
 
http://www.aopa.org/asf/asfarticles/sp9802.html
 
In part, this article says:
 
<<"Of particular interest to the investigators were the exhaust clamps used 
to attach the muffler to the exhaust stacks. According to the Piper parts list, 
a special clamp with a pin on the inside (see next page) is used to hold the 
muffler in place. The pin penetrates a hole in the muffler and in the exhaust 
stack to prevent the pipes from separating. The accident aircraft had the 
appropriate alignment holes in the pipes and the muffler, but automotive-type 
clamps without pins had been installed. 
The NTSB cited the probable cause as the improper installation of incorrect 
exhaust clamps by unknown persons, which led to an exhaust system disconnect 
and a subsequent in-flight engine compartment fire.>> 
OK, I'll climb down off my soap box now.  I'm wrapped up in firesleeve and 
fiberfrax.  Let the flaming begin!
Wayne DelRossi 
Alon N5618F

==============================================================================
To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm


Reply via email to