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I, too have used many Yahoo Groups with no problems, as long as they are moderated. There are many spammers who will join a group just to send inappropriate emails through that group. As long as they are removed quickly the system works very well. You have my vote. Lee Hockman, N3922H, s/n 4623 P.S. To Ron Hynes: Mack Blankenship at Jackson County. GA (19A) has a beautiful 415-D for $22K. It has been advertised in Barnstormers and Coupe Capers. He has lost his medical & cannot fly the coupe. If you cannot contact him directly, email me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) & I will get you to him. I don't think you will find a nicer looking 415-D than his. Ercoupe Technical Discussion <[email protected]> wrote: ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Message list: 1. [COUPERS-TECH] Web Site Is Down 2. [COUPERS-TECH] RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] EOC website is down 3. [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 4. [COUPERS-TECH] RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 5. [COUPERS-TECH] Site Change 6. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 7. [COUPERS-TECH] Fw: Yahoo Change 8. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 9. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 10. [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe Forum 11. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe Forum 12. RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 13. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 14. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe Forum 15. [COUPERS-TECH] Web Site Back Up 16. [COUPERS-TECH] EOC article submission 17. [COUPERS-TECH] RE: Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo 18. [COUPERS-TECH] Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo Messages: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Web Site Is Down The web site is down for a few days as it is moved to our new hosting site. Please be patient and I will notify you when it is back up. Skip ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ---------------------------- From: "Ed Burkhead" To: "Ctech" Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] EOC website is down Harry wrote: * Shame we are having such problems on the site....Seems * it should be bulletproof. Yep, that's the idea of the move. They're moving the hosting to a company with a farm of servers and redundant connections and backups. (I think it's the same one I use and I've never had any down time.) But transitions do take time and effort. Thanks to Tom for continuing to host these lists and the EOC website at no charge for years after he sold his Coupe. That's class. Please look at the following message about the list hosting. Ed Burkhead http://edburkhead.com ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???") ---------------------------- From: "Ed Burkhead" To: "Ctech" ,"Cflyin" Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo Everyone, Please forgive me for double posting this. I ask that the replies be made to the coupers-tech forum so everybody can be involved. We've long been grateful for Tom Laird-McConnell's creation of Coupe forums and his continued hosting of them (at his own expense), even years after he sold his own Coupe. (That's class!) Perhaps it is time to move the mail lists over to another source. Tom has kept us up and running as well as any private person could. When he's had hardware problems, he's rushed out to get replacements quickly, as a service to us, rather than at his own convenience. Nevertheless, because of Tom's travels, we've had a couple of week-long outages in the last year and a half and several short outages. Tom is busy and is no longer a Coupe owner. He's agreeable to our moving the lists elsewhere and I think we ought to get about it. Though I looked at the Google forum hosting system, I didn't find it as easy as Yahoo's. I've tried to participate in web-based-only forums but found them to be not 10% as convenient as e-mail based systems. So, I've created two forums on Yahoo to mirror those we are used to. I'd like to ask you all to vote on whether you would like to make the move now. The last time I asked, only a handful of people replied. Would you please consider it seriously now? If the consensus is to move, we'll shut off the old forums after a bit. If you really object to moving, we can keep imposing on Tom for a while longer. Advantages to moving to Yahoo: 1. The list owner will be involved in the lists. (At this time, the list owner is me. I'll be willing to pass on ownership as appropriate. I'll also look for ways to automatically transfer ownership of the list (or have joint-ownership) so if something were to happen to me there would be no list management problems. 2. We'll have several moderators who will watch for spam, flame wars and other inappropriate content and solve list problems. 3. The lists will be supported by a huge server farm with really good reliability. 4. If the Yahoo mail server gets a "hard bounce" from your own e-mail server it inactivates that e-mail account. Note that this is no different from Tom's e-mail server. But, with Yahoo, you can just go to the e-mail preferences and do the "unbounce" procedure and it'll fix you up. That's easier than doing the similar process with Tom's server. 5. With several moderators, we can set the options to moderate new members' messages for a message or two to watch for and screen out spammers. By having several moderators, the delay of this will be, we hope, not too obnoxious. 6. Tom's server uses older software that doesn't understand some changes to Internet e-mail address headers. Thus, 10-30 current list members are unable to post to the list because Tom's software thinks their messages are faulty. Yahoo is up to date and everyone should be able to post messages and participate fully. Downsides to moving to Yahoo: 1. Many of you will have to create a Yahoo account. Fortunately, Yahoo seems to take privacy fairly seriously. I've never found any spam attributable to Yahoo leaking my information. If you want to keep your info private, put bogus info in the information fields when you sign up - they just need the valid e-mail address. 2. Even Yahoo isn't perfect, maybe far from it, but they do pretty well. At busy times of the week, there are sometimes long delays in e-mail messages getting posted to the list - more so than we saw with Tom's server. But, it's rare for messages to be lost. With Yahoo, as with Tom's, you may read the messages (and post) on the website, by receiving individual e-mails or by getting a daily digest. So, please discuss this proposal and let's decide if we're going to move or stay put. It's your choice, gals and guys! Ed Burkhead http://edburkhead.com ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???") To join the lists on Yahoo, you'd go to these websites: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ercoupe-flyin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ercoupe-tech To send e-mail to the lists, you'd just address it to: [email protected] or [email protected] as appropriate. I've set the "reply-to" option the same as we have with Tom's lists - by default, when you hit "reply-to" your response will be addressed to the sender of the original message. This cuts down a LOT on trivial "me-to" responses and crosstalk that belongs on a direct reply to the sender. But it does, like on Tom's list, require you to put the e-mail address in the address line. (Note: I've found that if I put an entry in my e-mail program's address book with the name of "et" and another with "ef" then I can just type those two letters and my program will fill in the actual e-mail address by automatic lookup. It works for the three e-mail programs I use so it'll probably work for yours, too.) Here's the group description: Ercoupe, Aircoupe and Mooney M-10 aircraft are a beautiful, classic design. Originated in 1939 for initial production in 1941 and mass production in 1946, variants of the Coupe were made by Forney, Alon and Mooney up through 1970. Coupe owners share useful techniques and critical information concerning owning and flying these wonderful aircraft. Those interested in Ercoupes and Aircoupes should> be members of both ercoupe-flyin and ercoupe-tech. Everyone should be a member of -tech. Those who do not want the social and semi-off-topic content should join -tech only. The -flyin forum is open but intended for Coupe related social and general content. should be reserved for the ercoupe-flyin forum. This forum is for social and semi-off-topic content. We do not ban technical topics from this forum but we urge you to post them on ercoupe-tech instead. The -tech forum is restricted to Ercoupe/Aircoupe/Mooney M-10 technical information and aviation technique, safety about maintaining and flying Coupes. New members will be temporarily moderated to block spam. We reserve the right to moderate all messages to stay on-topic and eliminate flame-wars. We treasure our friendly and collegial atmosphere. We encourage the participation of young people and ask that all members keep this forum clean, just as you should speak in front of your own grandchildren. ---------------------------- From: DONALD BOWEN To: Ed Burkhead , Ctech , Cflyin Reply-To: DONALD BOWEN Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo I, for one, readily agree to Ed's proposal and am appreciative of his generosity and initiative in making it. Don Bowen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Moving the Coupe forums to YahooDate: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:51:23 -0500----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Everyone, Please forgive me for double posting this. I ask that the replies be made to the coupers-tech forum so everybody can be involved. Weve long been grateful for Tom Laird-McConnells creation of Coupe forums and his continued hosting of them (at his own expense), even years after he sold his own Coupe. (Thats class!) Perhaps it is time to move the mail lists over to another source. Tom has kept us up and running as well as any private person could. When hes had hardware problems, hes rushed out to get replacements quickly, as a service to us, rather than at his own convenience. Nevertheless, because of Toms travels, weve had a couple of week-long outages in the last year and a half and several short outages. Tom is busy and is no longer a Coupe owner. Hes agreeable to our moving the lists elsewhere and I think we ought to get about it. Though I looked at the Google forum hosting system, I didnt find it as easy as Yahoos. Ive tried to participate in web-based-only forums but found them to be not 10% as convenient as e-mail based systems. So, Ive created two forums on Yahoo to mirror those we are used to. Id like to ask you all to vote on whether you would like to make the move now. The last time I asked, only a handful of people replied. Would you please consider it seriously now? If the consensus is to move, well shut off the old forums after a bit. If you really object to moving, we can keep imposing on Tom for a while longer. Advantages to moving to Yahoo: 1. The list owner will be involved in the lists. (At this time, the list owner is me. Ill be willing to pass on ownership as appropriate. Ill also look for ways to automatically transfer ownership of the list (or have joint-ownership) so if something were to happen to me there would be no list management problems. 2. Well have several moderators who will watch for spam, flame wars and other inappropriate content and solve list problems. 3. The lists will be supported by a huge server farm with really good reliability. 4. If the Yahoo mail server gets a hard bounce from your own e-mail server it inactivates that e-mail account. Note that this is no different from Toms e-mail server. But, with Yahoo, you can just go to the e-mail preferences and do the unbounce procedure and itll fix you up. Thats easier than doing the similar process with Toms server. 5. With several moderators, we can set the options to moderate new members messages for a message or two to watch for and screen out spammers. By having several moderators, the delay of this will be, we hope, not too obnoxious. 6. Toms server uses older software that doesnt understand some changes to Internet e-mail address headers. Thus, 10-30 current list members are unable to post to the list because Toms software thinks their messages are faulty. Yahoo is up to date and everyone should be able to post messages and participate fully. Downsides to moving to Yahoo: 1. Many of you will have to create a Yahoo account. Fortunately, Yahoo seems to take privacy fairly seriously. Ive never found any spam attributable to Yahoo leaking my information. If you want to keep your info private, put bogus info in the information fields when you sign up they just need the valid e-mail address. 2. Even Yahoo isnt perfect, maybe far from it, but they do pretty well. At busy times of the week, there are sometimes long delays in e-mail messages getting posted to the list more so than we saw with Toms server. But, its rare for messages to be lost. With Yahoo, as with Toms, you may read the messages (and post) on the website, by receiving individual e-mails or by getting a daily digest. So, please discuss this proposal and lets decide if were going to move or stay put. Its your choice, gals and guys! Ed Burkhead http://edburkhead.com ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???") To join the lists on Yahoo, youd go to these websites: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ercoupe-flyin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ercoupe-tech To send e-mail to the lists, youd just address it to: [email protected] or [email protected] as appropriate. Ive set the reply-to option the same as we have with Toms lists by default, when you hit reply-to your response will be addressed to the sender of the original message. This cuts down a LOT on trivial me-to responses and crosstalk that belongs on a direct reply to the sender. But it does, like on Toms list, require you to put the e-mail address in the address line. (Note: Ive found that if I put an entry in my e-mail programs address book with the name of et and another with ef then I can just type those two letters and my program will fill in the actual e-mail address by automatic lookup. It works for the three e-mail programs I use so itll probably work for yours, too.) Heres the group description: Ercoupe, Aircoupe and Mooney M-10 aircraft are a beautiful, classic design. Originated in 1939 for initial production in 1941 and mass production in 1946, variants of the Coupe were made by Forney, Alon and Mooney up through 1970. Coupe owners share useful techniques and critical information concerning owning and flying these wonderful aircraft. Those interested in Ercoupes and Aircoupes should> be members of both ercoupe-flyin and ercoupe-tech. Everyone should be a member of -tech. Those who do not want the social and semi-off-topic content should join -tech only. The -flyin forum is open but intended for Coupe related social and general content. should be reserved for the ercoupe-flyin forum. This forum is for social and semi-off-topic content. We do not ban technical topics from this forum but we urge you to post them on ercoupe-tech instead. The tech forum is restricted to Ercoupe/Aircoupe/Mooney M-10 technical information and aviation technique, safety about maintaining and flying Coupes. New members will be temporarily moderated to block spam. We reserve the right to moderate all messages to stay on-topic and eliminate flame-wars. We treasure our friendly and collegial atmosphere. We encourage the participation of young people and ask that all members keep this forum clean, just as you should speak in front of your own grandchildren.============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ---------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] (ercoupeer tech) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Site Change I too, would be glad for another site, with heart felt thanks to Tom. It takes a great man to keep up the work when no longer associated with the Ercoupe. Gordon M. Smith ---------------------------- From: "Dan Bass" To: "Ed Burkhead" , "Ctech" ,"Cflyin" Reply-To: "Dan Bass" Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo I agree with Ed. I am a member of a few yahoo groups. They seem to run very smoothly, are easy to use, and have some neat features. The groups I'm on now have a place to post pictures and files. The even have polls where you cast your vote on group issues. Like weather or not to move the mail list! I cast my vote for moving the list to yahoo. Dan N93805 -----Original Message----- From: Ed Burkhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 12:51 PM To: Ctech; Cflyin Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Moving the Coupe forums to Yahoo ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Everyone, Please forgive me for double posting this. I ask that the replies be made to the coupers-tech forum so everybody can be involved. We've long been grateful for Tom Laird-McConnell's creation of Coupe forums and his continued hosting of them (at his own expense), even years after he sold his own Coupe. (That's class!) Perhaps it is time to move the mail lists over to another source. Tom has kept us up and running as well as any private person could. When he's had hardware problems, he's rushed out to get replacements quickly, as a service to us, rather than at his own convenience. Nevertheless, because of Tom's travels, we've had a couple of week-long outages in the last year and a half and several short outages. Tom is busy and is no longer a Coupe owner. He's agreeable to our moving the lists elsewhere and I think we ought to get about it. Though I looked at the Google forum hosting system, I didn't find it as easy as Yahoo's. I've tried to participate in web-based-only forums but found them to be not 10% as convenient as e-mail based systems. So, I've created two forums on Yahoo to mirror those we are used to. I'd like to ask you all to vote on whether you would like to make the move now. The last time I asked, only a handful of people replied. Would you please consider it seriously now? If the consensus is to move, we'll shut off the old forums after a bit. If you really object to moving, we can keep imposing on Tom for a while longer. Advantages to moving to Yahoo: 1. The list owner will be involved in the lists. (At this time, the list owner is me. I'll be willing to pass on ownership as appropriate. I'll also look for ways to automatically transfer ownership of the list (or have joint-ownership) so if something were to happen to me there would be no list management problems. 2. We'll have several moderators who will watch for spam, flame wars and other inappropriate content and solve list problems. 3. The lists will be supported by a huge server farm with really good reliability. 4. If the Yahoo mail server gets a "hard bounce" from your own e-mail server it inactivates that e-mail account. Note that this is no different from Tom's e-mail server. But, with Yahoo, you can just go to the e-mail preferences and do the "unbounce" procedure and it'll fix you up. That's easier than doing the similar process with Tom's server. 5. With several moderators, we can set the options to moderate new members' messages for a message or two to watch for and screen out spammers. By having several moderators, the delay of this will be, we hope, not too obnoxious. 6. Tom's server uses older software that doesn't understand some changes to Internet e-mail address headers. Thus, 10-30 current list members are === message truncated === --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
