Kevin is exactly right. If a part is not on the required equipment
list it is not required. End of story. Pizza. Thank you.
Syd
On Sep 2, 2009, at 7:25 AM, kgassert wrote:
Bill,
It has been concluded as far as I'm concerned but you keep mudding
the topic with talk of aircraft drawings and what was on the
aircraft when it was delivered. The TC and the required equipment
list is what matters and I don't see the spinner on either but if
you have a copy that does I would like to see it. Not a list of what
was delivered on the new aircraft but a required equipment list.
They are two different things. There are many props in the TC and if
a spinner was required with them it would be listed there. The
spinner in the parts book will not fit them all. The spinner that
was delivered on the airplane when it was delivered will not fit the
all. The spinner on your drawings will not fit them all. That
spinner was applicable in that situation, not mandatory. You say you
are not a mechanic and are worried about my license. Well, I am one
and I asked my FSDO and they confirm what I just said. That and the
fact that Fred, who designed the Ercoupe, say it is not needed is
good enough for me.
Kevin1
pS. I do have a full spinner and am happy with it.
--- In [email protected], William R. Bayne <ercog...@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> All,
>
> The reason the "spinner topic" has been "beat to death so many
times"
> is that it has not yet been conclusively resolved. I shall attempt
> once again to do that so we shall not forever continue to "beat a
dead
> horse".
>
> We were all new to the Ercoupe (et al) once. At that time our
limited
> "frame of reference" was insufficient to separate good information
from
> misinformation. We need to inform these people, not confuse them.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not
entitled
> to muddy clear water for others in the process. The process is not a
> democratic one, in which strong opinions prevail over actual
pertinent
> facts. Accordingly, the facts should speak for themselves.
>
> FAR Section 91.7(a) states: "No person shall operate a civil
aircraft
> unless it is in airworthy condition...".
>
> The FAA interpretation of "airworthy" is in Order 8130.2D, Fig. 8-1,
> which refers to Title 49 Section 44704 (c) and CFR part 21. The
> statutory language requires that:
>
> "The aircraft must conform to its TC (type certificate). Conformity
> to type
> design is considered attained when the aircraft configuration and
the
> components installed are consistent with the drawings,
specifications,
> and other data that are part of the TC, and would include any STC
and
> field approved alterations incorporated into the aircraft."
>
> An Ercoupe without a spinner is NOT AIRWORTHY because the spinner
> drawing and all production drawings depicting the aircraft with the
> spinner installed "are part of the TC" to which conformance is
> mandatory. There is no more authoritative document in relationship
to
> a particular airplane than its type certificate.
>
> An Ercoupe with a skull cap (or other non-standard spinner) whose
> installation in place of the original is not properly documented
as a
> "field approved alteration" is similarly NOT AIRWORTHY!
>
> ERCO's manufacturing process was never itself approved by the CAA.
> Instead, ERCO employed certain persons authorized by the CAA to
flight
> test each plane and personally certify that it conformed in every
> respect to the applicable type certificate before the Airworthiness
> Certificate could be issued. The ERCO Equipment List that was
> submitted to the CAA for every Ercoupe lists 24 items as "STANDARD -
> Installed on all Airplanes". The spinner is item no. 22.
>
> Regards,
>
> William R. Bayne
> .____|-(o)-|____.
> (Copyright 2009)
>
> --
>
> On Sep 1, 2009, at 15:09, Bob Swinney wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Amen........
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, kgassert <kgass...@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: kgassert <kgass...@...>
> >> Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Skull cap spinner
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 1:50 PM
> >>
> >> Sorry but the parts catalog is just that, a parts catalog with
a list
> >> of parts and where they are applicable. Applicable, not
mandatory.
> >> The mandatory stuff is in the TC and equipment list. This spinner
> >> topic has been beat to death so many times you can read about
it in
> >> the archives for hours. How many of you guys have your sun
shade and
> >> glove boxes??? They are in the parts manual you know. How about
those
> >> little chrome trim strips on the panel. Need any more examples?
> >>
> >> Kevin1
>
