Changed the posting, see what this drags up.

 

You also might check with Oklahoma City aircraft registration. If the plane was 
ever under US registration there could be a file with the original 
airworthiness certificate.

 

Bill Bayne might have a record of it's original N number. Post the serial 
number to the list.

 

Problem is, lots of Coupers at Oshkosh this week.

 

Bill
Bill 


To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:14:24 +0000
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Eb\ngine oil, Vacuum pumps et al

  



Hey Bil,
Thanks, today I talked to my boss who is an IA and an other IA who sometimes 
works for our company and we figured out the same. Since we wil reregister the 
plane to US registration, and our DAR is reasonable but strict I wanted to have 
it right and no questions to be asked. 
Because the plane has been in The Netherlands,out country, since 1947 it wil be 
difficult enough cause I don't think the original american registration form is 
stil there wich, wil be very important so to make it up, the aircraft has to be 
tip top, and also, that's the way I like to work. Just like to do it as it 
should be and not cutting corners.

And just as you are talking about it, do you know someone who might have a 337 
for this conversion?

Thanks for your reply,

Ruben

--- In [email protected], Bill BIGGS <webacr...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Ruben,
> 
> 
> 
> Technically you are correct, but I think you are misinterpreting the notes. 
> When it says eligible on C75-12 and 12F I believe that means as apposed to -8 
> engines without pads for generator or starter.
> 
> 
> I believe a look at TCDS 787 makes it clear, and does not specify a starter 
> or generator. It also specifies the additional baffels needed in note 4.
> 
> 
> 
> Then again, just because it seems obvious to us, the FAA is the final say.
> 
> 
> 
> That being said, you might want to get a previous 337 on this conversion as 
> "approved data", or best of all, have your IA send a "before the fact" 337 to 
> your friendly FSDO to review and give preliminary approval before you do the 
> actual work.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> A&P-IA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: [email protected]
> From: harrylfran...@...
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:34:59 -0700
> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Eb\ngine oil, Vacuum pumps et al
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ruben29578 <ruben29...@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 4:52:03 PM
> Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Eb\ngine oil, Vacuum pumps et al
> 
> 
> 
> Ok I know it is an old topic, but I am restoring an Ercoupe and would like to 
> convert the C75 to a C85, the SB M47-16 does not state anything about the 
> starter and generator. 
> The TCDS of the plane tels you the starter and generator are no longer 
> allowed, i.a.w. note 308 and 107. The TCDS of the plane does, as far as I can 
> see, not give any replacement P/N for both.
> The TCDS of the engine states the same starter P/N for both engines. 
> Also the P/N of the generator is useable on both engines i.a.w. the engine 
> TCDS although, if I had to change it, I would go for more capacity or 
> probably an alternator.
> 
> I am studying to be an A&P, only have the practical exam to go, but even I am 
> lost here.
> 
> Who can help me out?
> 
> Ruben
> 
> --- In [email protected], "John Cooper" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Question: If your 415C "under TCDS A-718" is converted to a C-85 is the
> > starter still legal?
> > 
> > Good catch! Read on, and you'll see the generator has to come off also! ;)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John Cooper
> > 
> > Skyport Services
> > 
> > 518 797-3064
> > 
> > www.skyportservices.net
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > _
> >
> 
> 
> 
> HI,
> 
> 
> 
> The first coupes did not have starters or generatorss, but most all later 
> models, after 1940 did come equiped with both... Delco units, similar to auto 
> generators. The earliest Gen were 13 amp, later changed to 25, then 35 
> amps...all approved for C-75 or 85 and 90 engines.
> 
> 
> 
> With the curent electronics... transistors, etc, I sdee no need for the 
> change to an alternator --about $1000+, plus sawing off the shaft on the 
> accessory case to utilize an alternator.... Only advantaagfe I see is the 
> re-charging of a weak battery at Idle speweed. And as you know, one sdhould 
> not let an air cooled engine sit lone at idle.
> 
> 
> 
> The Delco units can be rebuilt with standard Delco brushes, etc.... 
> 
> 
> 
> The one change I might consider is the repplacement of the Delco regulartoer 
> with a solid state device.....BUT, mine is still operational, works fine 
> still for the time I have owned N93530...since 1982. :)
> 
> 
> 
> Have Fun - Fly Safe
> 
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Harry Francis
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