I currently have TC 7 and like Michael do not use it often 
enough to gain/maintain proficency with it.

For Mac users: Get a windows/pc emulator and run it under
that ... a little slow but should work.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Michael Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: Re: [ERPS] CAD programs  
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ERPS Main List)
>
>John Carmack wrote:
> 
>> I have pretty much become a believer in the value of CAD, 
even at our scale 
>> of development.  After getting a little more proficient at 
designing in it, 
>> and after accumulating a couple dozen drawings, I think we 
are getting real 
>> value from it.
>> 
>> I am going to make an offer to ERPS that I think would 
benefit all of us.
>> 
>> If ERPS is willing to sanction the attachment of CAD files 
on the mailing 
>> list, and endorse TurboCAD as the "official" CAD program, 
I would be 
>> willing to buy a half dozen or so copies for the primary 
contributors.
>
>I have a copy of TurboCAD (likely a rev or two old) and 
bought one for
>Gene when he was doing ERPS stuff. TC is affordable and 
powerful
>enough for our needs without being TOO terrible a learning 
curve. My
>problem was that I didn't use it often enough to keep 
proficient.  8-(
>
>> I think we would all benefit by having more discussions 
with precise 
>> drawings instead of hand-waving text descriptions, and 
email attachments 
>> really are the most convenient way to do that.  Most of 
the simple drawings 
>> I have been making are under 30k, so it isn't like sending 
huge mpg files 
>> around.
>
>An alternative would be to create a CAD directory with 
upload/download
>options. CAD drawing could be posted there with msgs sent to 
the list
>that include descriptions and the link.
>
>> There is a benefit to sharing common tools, especially 
among amateurs who 
>> aren't dedicating their lives to maximum proficiency with 
a tool set.  I 
>> can't say I have done any comparison shopping, because I 
picked TC only 
>> because Russ and Phil were already using it, but it seems 
to do the job 
>> OK.  CAD programs are probably like programming 
environments as far as 
>> preferences go, but if almost nobody at ERPS is using one 
at the moment, 
>> you might as well adopt a common one.
>
>Agreed. I think the major issue would be that Dan (who does 
most of
>our machining) is a Mac person, not a PC user. And Dave M 
(our other
>machinist) has drafting background and uses SolidWorks I 
think. I will
>recommend TC, though, and encourage people to adopt it as 
Standard. 
>
>    Michael
>
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