AFAIKT, Crockford is referring to an older version of the proposal.

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Dr. Axel Rauschmayer
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On 01.04.2012, at 10:30, Dmitry Soshnikov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, wait, just have read Crock's article on => functions. A Python's style of 
> passing manual `this'? That's interesting (why it's not specified on the 
> wiki? where Crockford took it from? did you discuss it in a close ECMA 
> meeting?). Inconsistent again with other functions.
> 
> So, let's see, overall we have .. 6 types of functions in JS, and all have 
> their own specific features. That's again interesting, if won't cause 
> confusion.
> 
> Dmitry
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Dmitry Soshnikov wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Ah, good. But one can use the above (pseudo-)desugaring to predict the 
>>>>> behavior of arrow functions, right? That is, there is no observable 
>>>>> difference.
>>>> 
>>>> There is, again, the difference in terms of delegation to the target's 
>>>> [[Construct]] in case of a bound function, see the spec ("bound" per ES5, 
>>>> of course, since, as Brendan notices, it's not just a syntactic sugar, but 
>>>> a new special type of functions).
>>> 
>>> OK. Ignoring [[Construct]] and .prototype, any other differences?
>> 
>> Well, "ES5-bounds" also do not have `prototype' property, but delegate to 
>> the target's `prototype'. However, yes, there is the (main) difference in 
>> respect of supporting TCP (if I understand correctly, since had no time to 
>> follow the complete thread) -- return and break/continue jumps to the parent 
>> frame instead of working with the function itself.
>> 
>> Lexical `this' is the only similar thing to bound functions, so we should 
>> not call => functions as synonym to bound functions. You may say, => 
>> function _as well as_ a bound captures `this' lexically, but in contrast 
>> with it, it has other features.  In my later analysis, I'll specify them as 
>> a new type of functions --  AF (Arrow Function) -- in addition to FE, FD, 
>> NFE, BF, etc., with many own features, but not just a syntactic sugar -- 
>> neither for FE, nor for BF.
>> 
>> Dmitry
>> 
> 
> 
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