>   Plus, the ATIP information for HPs and Taiwan Fujis
>is the same.  They're Taiyo Yudens.  I don't know how simpler
>it can get.


This was pointed out once before quite awhile ago but apparently many 
missed it. I think there was even a web site with particulars but I don't 
have it bookmarked.

The ATIP info from a disc only tells you about the plates that press the 
disc. I can buy/take plates from the TY factory in Japan and bring them to 
Taiwan, use inferior dyes and plastics in the manufacturing process but as 
long as I use those plates to press then your ATIP info will still read 
quality dye and say made by TY. This is why a "made in Japan" label is your 
best bet for quality as there are no bunk cdr manufacturers in Japan AFAIK.

Nothing is ever as simple as it seems  :-)

Joe

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