No, we may NOT continue... this is for Thursday's meeting to be discussed... So take a chill pill already James...
> From: kg7fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ok, since Justin and Seth have seconded my motion, I move to > > vote on the officers. Denied. This isn't Robert's Rules of Order, it's a dictatorship with anarchist overtones... or in other words: it's a meritocracy, just like most of the rest of the open source movement. See ESR's writing for more philosophy on that... But regardless of what people thing about it, the truth is that people who produce lead. People who make noise don't. People who make noise and produce get a reputation like ESR, RMS, or god forbid, myself, on a lesser scale... > > There is a question by some on the BSD/GPL "issue". Let me clarify MY > > position. When we re-formed the group, the purposes was to promote Linux > > and educate ourselves and help others "cath the bug". Some of us have > > used the group as a vehicle to pronote BSD, GPL and various & sundry > > non-Linux topics, goals and left-wing liberal agendas. IMHO this is not > > what we're about and if YOU want that then a) go to those existing groups, > > b) form a new group or c) we'll splinter and form a new group. In the case > of > > "c", the name, basis and purpose of ELUG should remain to promote Linux > > and assist the community generally where Linux is concerned, NOT to pump > > the GPL thing, wave the BSD banner, etc. Those things DO have a place in > > our group, but the are not central to our basis and purpose, nor should > they > > be promoted to the point of splintering the group or watering down the > basis > > and purpose James, you speak *only* for yourself. And besides which, EUGLUG (to use the full name) is not about BSD or GPL or even Linux... it's about the user group, and anything which supports that... It's been Eugene Unix GNU/Linux User Group for a few years now. That means that so long as the focus is Eugene/Springfield (the Spngfld is implied), the topic matter is anything about Unix GNU or Linux, and it's about using/support/etc, it's a fair topic. Don't argue the ELUG point, the group changed names a while back, with full agreement of active, vocal members and has used the short form only when not corrected or for simplicity sake. Now take a seat, and be quiet, or get ejected. You know Jim will pull the plug on your connection if I ask him to (grin). > > So......may we continue with the elections? No we may not. Thursday. My saying seconded was support for the idea, NOT an endorsement of your methods. Any further discussion you want to have about this, message me privately. I want to thank Kahli for his words: > With due respect to everyone on this list, the > postings I have seen lately do not reflect the spirit of this list, the > open-source community, or Linux. The audience for this list extends > beyond the small group of people who post regularly, and I think it > casts our community in a poor light when the bandwidth of this list is > filled with bickering, regardless of the intention of the poster. He said it FAR better than I could. Should anyone be interested in the 'president' job (and pipe down you anarchists who want everyone to be president...), keep in mind, it means dealing with all of these people and still getting things done... You don't have to be crazy(haired?) but it helps. Thursday, 6pm, Stan's aka PC Training Center, West 7th St. Be there, be ready to commit your time and energy to something, be helpful, or don't be there. Seth
