On Wednesday 28 November 2001 00:14, N2UFD wrote:
>  No, we may NOT continue... this is for Thursday's meeting to be
> discussed...
>  So take a chill pill already James...

Oh Mr. Cohn said his piece. My counterpoint:

Linux is Linux, BSD is BSD, GPL is GPL and "Globalization" is a liberal
farce. 

When I got into Linux 6 years ago, there was NO support of any kind
locally to speak of. Ruscheinski and a few others were dabbling with it
with their fledgling ISP's and development support projects (mostly win32).
I asked around a few users and there was a very fragmented group forming.
Well, whatever happened to those folks is unknown to me. I started this group
to support and promote Linux, not BSD, GPL or Liberal Left Wing Ideology.

As I said before, those things certainly do have a place in this group. 
However, I feel they have overshawdowed the ORIGINAL basis and purpose
of the group  You want BSD? Join or form a BSD group. You want to promote
YOUR views on Globalization? Get the heck out of here, this isn't YOUR
personal political forum, it's OUR support group.

Threaten my connection? You're just another overly opinionated 
pseudo-intellectual punk with a chip on his shoulder and no clues about the
"real world". Go ahead. I really could care less. Please drop me from all
these lists and kiss my ass. You can have your soapbox back as I don't much
want to have anything more to do with a group who has so left ideals of 
support and help thy neighbour behind, threatens one's connectivity for
personal pleasure, derides an honest e-mail mistake or two and spends more
time bitching about Saudia censorship and Nuclear power than kernel 
debugging. This group BARELY resembles one with the goal of promotion and
support, no matter how you look at it.

I HEREBY DENOUNCE EUGLUG AS A FARCE AND ANNOUNCE THE
FORMING OF A REAL LINUX USERS GROUP. E.L.U.G. THE PRIMARY GOALS
BEING THE PUBLIC PROMOTION OF LINUX AND SHARED PUBLIC LINUX SUPPORT.

ALL THOSE WISHING TO PROMOTE LINUX AND LEND OR GAIN LINUX
SUPPORT WITHOUT GLOBALIZATION PROPONENTS, BSD USERS OR
OTHER DISTRACTIONS AND DETRACTORS GLOBBING FOR ATTENTION
ARE WELCOME AND INVITED TO JOIN ME. 

PLEASE E-MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] OFF THIS LIST AND WE'LL SERIOUSLY
DISCUSS LINUX.

I should have something on com.os.linux.announce this week and a group
at google or yahoo soon as I'm sure my chezgeek stuff will be toast any moment
along with my borrowed clipper connectivity.

Oh, and just because one appreciates RRO and non-Clintonian world
politics does not a dictatorship make. I recall the bulk of this group 
agreeing with my attempts at civil organization. 

I seriously wish those participating in your grand experiment the best of 
luck promoting things non-Linux.

Reagrds

James S. Kaplan
PAST President and co-founding member ELUG



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