Sigh... This has digressed considerably. Such blathering (by both Seth and
James) really is not helpful, and does not make me want either party in any
position of "authority". If you want to bitch at each other, maybe you should
take it off the list. You are both welcome on the list, and have both
contributed to the LUG, and I wish you both your personal agenda away from
the group. I (and I think I speak for ed too) have no intentions of puliling
either from the list. You ofcourse may unsub if you feel the need.
The topic, should remain open for discussion, voting, promoting, and all
that is good. blaming, shaming, threatening, and heavy handed comments about
one another is not going to do anything but cause disention, and anger... try
to find more constructive ways of communicating please!
Have we decided on a good meeting place? Stans? here? seths? kbob? Tomorrow
is the meeting day, and I for one want to be certain where it will be. can we
vote on that atleast! Here, or stans is fine with me. Are there any other
options? What is on the agenda (voting? ...) Lets all try to focus on what we
want to do, and where, rather than whats been going on!
As a side note... There we actually many other meetings before the allan
brothers coffee house meeting... They were in springfield, and I didnt make
them because I didnt drive (although atleast one other newsgroup poster did
offer me trans... I think it was ralph or rick... but i cant remember for
sure...) The meetings were of some limiited success actually, but kind of
died off, I belive there were about 5 of them... then died, then about a year
later we met at allan bros... put that in your history books :)
Jamie (notthepresidentofeuglug)
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 09:08, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 November 2001 00:14, N2UFD wrote:
> > No, we may NOT continue... this is for Thursday's meeting to be
> > discussed...
> > So take a chill pill already James...
>
> Oh Mr. Cohn said his piece. My counterpoint:
>
> Linux is Linux, BSD is BSD, GPL is GPL and "Globalization" is a liberal
> farce.
>
> When I got into Linux 6 years ago, there was NO support of any kind
> locally to speak of. Ruscheinski and a few others were dabbling with it
> with their fledgling ISP's and development support projects (mostly win32).
> I asked around a few users and there was a very fragmented group forming.
> Well, whatever happened to those folks is unknown to me. I started this
> group to support and promote Linux, not BSD, GPL or Liberal Left Wing
> Ideology.
>
> As I said before, those things certainly do have a place in this group.
> However, I feel they have overshawdowed the ORIGINAL basis and purpose
> of the group You want BSD? Join or form a BSD group. You want to promote
> YOUR views on Globalization? Get the heck out of here, this isn't YOUR
> personal political forum, it's OUR support group.
>
> Threaten my connection? You're just another overly opinionated
> pseudo-intellectual punk with a chip on his shoulder and no clues about the
> "real world". Go ahead. I really could care less. Please drop me from all
> these lists and kiss my ass. You can have your soapbox back as I don't much
> want to have anything more to do with a group who has so left ideals of
> support and help thy neighbour behind, threatens one's connectivity for
> personal pleasure, derides an honest e-mail mistake or two and spends more
> time bitching about Saudia censorship and Nuclear power than kernel
> debugging. This group BARELY resembles one with the goal of promotion and
> support, no matter how you look at it.
>
> I HEREBY DENOUNCE EUGLUG AS A FARCE AND ANNOUNCE THE
> FORMING OF A REAL LINUX USERS GROUP. E.L.U.G. THE PRIMARY GOALS
> BEING THE PUBLIC PROMOTION OF LINUX AND SHARED PUBLIC LINUX SUPPORT.
>
> ALL THOSE WISHING TO PROMOTE LINUX AND LEND OR GAIN LINUX
> SUPPORT WITHOUT GLOBALIZATION PROPONENTS, BSD USERS OR
> OTHER DISTRACTIONS AND DETRACTORS GLOBBING FOR ATTENTION
> ARE WELCOME AND INVITED TO JOIN ME.
>
> PLEASE E-MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] OFF THIS LIST AND WE'LL SERIOUSLY
> DISCUSS LINUX.
>
> I should have something on com.os.linux.announce this week and a group
> at google or yahoo soon as I'm sure my chezgeek stuff will be toast any
> moment along with my borrowed clipper connectivity.
>
> Oh, and just because one appreciates RRO and non-Clintonian world
> politics does not a dictatorship make. I recall the bulk of this group
> agreeing with my attempts at civil organization.
>
> I seriously wish those participating in your grand experiment the best of
> luck promoting things non-Linux.
>
> Reagrds
>
> James S. Kaplan
> PAST President and co-founding member ELUG
>
>
>
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