Subject: Re: [EUG-LUG:1161] Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Postmaster 
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On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:11:58PM -0800, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
(Sorry if I chopped this up too much)
> comments below current status report:
>       Current status report: 
> BSD hard disk failed many times in a row.

Well, it was already working around some bad sectors to begin with.  
What exactly do you mean by "failed"?  When it boots, does the 
bootloader see the disk?  You should see a line like "disks: fd0 hd0".

> I noticed no network, and no cd, 
> for 2 or 3 boots, then no booting (failed mid boot...) late last night it 
> started working again, but no network!
> I have no idea how to troubleshoot this
> either... When I do ifconfig ne1, I get " o such interface".

This is, uh, bizarre.  Does this corelate with what you're seeing in dmesg?
boot_i386(8) and/or http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#pciideErr
and/or http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#PCI may be of some use here.

> Im also getting 
> soft errors on wd0

Does it also switch from, say, UDMA mode 2 to UDMA mode 0, or "degrade" in
some other way?  My guess is that the disk is going bad, and is really
confusing the system (interrupt timeouts and whatnot).

> well... I can play Mp3's and I can 
> still use windowmaker.... I tried to start the network from /etc/netstart, 
> but it claims I dont have permission f(as root?) so I checked, and netstart 
> is not executable! is that correct?

Yes that's correct.  You have to "sh /etc/netstart".

> On Sunday 20 January 2002 18:57, you wrote:
> > I've been messing with sendmail && virtuser stuff ... This must be
> > the third or forth time I've tried to send a mail to the list today, oi!
> Sigh.... network fun :) which is more fun? bind or sendmail? atleast with 
> bind your the only one that knows you goofed... sendmail... sigh... can be 
> embarrasing.

Actually I was trying to check out sorceror.wox.org, but it was timing
out before it would send any data.  I went 'dig'ging around, and, lets
just say that if one goofs up name services ... others can certainly 
find out.

> hmmm sounds like I have the option of installing on a separate box, building 
> qt, building tcl, building kde, debugging dependancies, paths, ... then 
> making a standalone konqueror tar, and hoping it works... sigh.... Im not up 
> for that right now... 

I might be up for giving it a shot, but don't hold your breath.

Your do have another option.  You could extract the pkgs on another machine
and repackage only what you need for konqueror.

> That would be cool, if I had decent internet access... as it is I only have 
> one machine with a modem in it ( I reall aught to get around to putting a 
> modem in that gateway box I have... then I can atleast share the dialup 
> connection...

This would fit OBSD's profile better than a stripped down GUI without a
compiler on an old-skool laptop.

> > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communincator/english/4.75/unix/unsupported/bsdi
> >21/navigator_standalone/navigator-v475-us.x86-bsdi-bsd2.tar.gz
> I have it on the cd...

On that "BSD 4" CD?  The Navigator on the disk I gave you is the Linux 
version. 

> but I havnt installed it as it will run too slow.. (24 
> megs ram...)

Might not be all that bad under twm or blackbox. 

> > Hmmm, it looks like there's an "image" FLAVOR for w3m's port, but no
> > "image" FLAVORed pkg.  I can build one if you want to try it.
> ???? image? flavor? I have no idea what your talking about here.... but it 
> sounds interesting 

I think Seth did a demo of images with w3m at one of the clinics a while
back.  FLAVOR is one of the OpenBSD additions to the ports system.

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