On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 07:34:40PM -0700, Mr O wrote:

> 20 hours to finish which part of the install? Plan a hell of a
> lot more time than that to have a system up with 'X'. And, Kbob,
> if Gentoo is for experts then why am I using it? :) I think it's
> just a matter of being a little more brave. I'm far from the
> level of mastery many of you fellow geeks possess.

Actually, you don't have to be an expert to install Gentoo.  You do have
to have some degree of comfort at the command line and be able to use
fdisk.  The installation docs on Gentoo's web site are great-- if you've
got another box around, just fire it up and RTFM once or twice through
(it's short and readable), then leave the page open and follow along
step-by-step through the install.  The one thing I don't like about the
install is that funky clone of a funky editor (nano) that you have to
use to get set up, but you can fix that with "emerge vim" later on.

The true rewards from Gentoo come *after* the installation.  System
administration is easy-- no putzy GUI to fart around with unless you
want.  And best of all, no RPM and no dependency hell.  It's amazing
how well stuff runs when everything is compiled against the libraries on
your system.  Oh, and did I mention the Gentoo init?  It's about time
someone simplified runlevels.  Granted, it's not as "correct" and tested
as Debian, but it also runs on newer hardware that Debian has issues
with.

BTW, the newest kernel, 2.4.20-r5, kicks serious butt.  I've got one
Gentoo install on a dual-processor Celeron 366, and installing the
newest kernel gave it a complete different feel.  It especially improved
the speed of X (using a Voodoo3 2000).

Cheers,
Dennis
-- 
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
                                           --H.L. Mencken
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