Mark,
Interesting comment on SUSE10. I'm still running 9.1. I've got to get
ahold of the Latest All Open version. I find I end up overriding Yast
to obtain and install things that it doesn't know about. I've
overhauled major components of my system outside of its knowledge by
this point.
-Mike
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 10:39 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> EWEB currently runs its snort & NTP boxes on Opteron 64 with SUSE 9.3
> ... however we'll shortly be switching to SLES9 since we've got the
> licensing and updating worked out.
>
> SLES9 is rippin fast.. but SUSE10 , which I've had for a short time
> seems as fast.. ( would be some interesting tests ) I've got the all
> open source SUSE 10 edition on CD I can distribute to anyone who want to
> try. Actually I think Linux Format has the open source ver in this
> months mag as well if you want to hit Barnes and Knoble...
>
> And I must say - I was a Red Hat / Gentoo user and was forced to switch
> to SUSE, so its not that Im biased as much as I was coerced heh. but
> that said.. version 10 is fast, has some bitchin stuff in it ( the new
> SAX for better multimonitor and card support was a great improvement all
> in itself ) and YAST has made me seriously lazy, yes , but more
> productive. . What I like about Yast over APT-GET is the manner in
> which you can either overcome dependancy problems or tell it to ignore,
> or re-install, or whatever if you've got non-standard distro version of
> some things where you need to run some app that isnt in Yast yet.
>
> Mark
>
> Mike Cherba wrote:
>
> >I tend to prefer either Suse or Ubuntu for that sort of setup. Suse has
> >more apps out of the box, but Personally, I prefer Apt-get and the
> >various GUI front ends for it to Yast. Yast's online update
> >capabilities never quite work as well as I would like. Nothing I can
> >put my finger on, but I'd prefer Ubuntu here. I know at least a few of
> >the guys on here are running Athlon 64s with Ubuntu. I'm not sure if I
> >know anyone who is doing so with Suse.
> > -Mike
> >
> >"Software Engineering is that part of Computer Science which is too
> >difficult for the Computer Scientist." --— F. L. Bauer.
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 00:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> >>So someone help me out here:
> >>
> >>I'm primarily a NetBSD user (for about 8 years now) - I converted
> >>after I realized that OpenBSD crashes too much due to poorly written
> >>drivers (this was around OpenBSD 2.x) and I really didn't like the
> >>elitist attitude of the userbase. Fortunately, NetBSD and OpenBSD
> >>feel almost identical so the switch was easy. I've used Solaris for a
> >>few years too, and Digital Unix (before it came Tru64 or whatever it's
> >>called these days), so I have good Unix experience.
> >>
> >>As of recently, I've converted my desktop machine at work to OS X. I
> >>like it a lot, but I still run Windows on my home computer so I can
> >>stay productive (I need Photoshop, and no Gimp is not the same!). Now
> >>I'm considering adding Linux so I can make use of my dual core Athlon
> >>64.
> >>
> >>That said, what's the most desktop-friendly, out-of-the-box pretty,
> >>everything-is-automated, and bloated Linux distro these days?
> >>Processor and RAM aren't a problem, I just want something pleasing to
> >>the eye that comes with lots of useful applications. I don't feel
> >>like compiling crap either. This distro chooser tells me I should
> >>install SuSE. Does everyone agree?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 1/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I agree..
> >>>
> >>>This tool is a great idea but I think it need some work. I took the test
> >>>a bunch of times and among other things got WAY to many Linspire
> >>>reccomendations ~shivvver ~.
> >>>
> >>>It also does not ask about support. Especialy for a new users or a
> >>>business system you may want to use something you can buy support on in
> >>>an emergency.
> >>>
> >>>Mark Ellister
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 09:11:25AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Going with basic criteria (somewhere between "desktop user" and
> >>>>>>experienced) I ended up with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Suse, Debian.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Yeah, I also got four recommendations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I like that it gives a short list instead of just saying "You are a
> >>>>>Mandriva user."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>I don't know, it seems to be very full of stereotypical responses. For
> >>>>example, it recommends Debian to me based solely on the answer to the
> >>>>question of my experience level being advanced or expert. If I tell it
> >>>>advanced, it offers me just Ubuntu. Debian's not all that high on the
> >>>>expertise requirement scale, though I know it is reputed to be preferred
> >>>>by the best and brightest.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bugs (which have been fixed) notwithstanding, the install process of
> >>>>Debian that is "so hard" is the one of Ubuntu that is "so easy". They
> >>>>also don't ask someone of high skill level how much screwing-with-it they
> >>>>want to do. Debian is disqualified by the fact that I have about zero
> >>>>interest in sitting down to carefully fine-tune a kernel config for my
> >>>>custom hardware setup. There's just no advantage to doing that anymore
> >>>>that offsets the time it takes for me to configure and maintain it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Debian technically doesn't require that even, it's just that Ubuntu's
> >>>>kernels tend to have more desktop-class-hardware support included by
> >>>>default whereas Debian default kernels are generally more workstation
> >>>>oriented. Both have basics like sound drivers for modern PCI sound chips
> >>>>and the like.
> >>>>
> >>>>I am not surprised that it basically leads me to Ubuntu though, given my
> >>>>preference for anything-but-rpm. I came to the same conclusion.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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