Hi Victor and All,
--- Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> jerry dycus wrote:
> > 
> >      If the Li-ion batt makers thought they could
> do
> > it by batt instead of cells, they would because it
>> > would be cheaper, but they don't so I take that
as
>> a
>> hint.
> 
>> Please get your facts straight and don't rely on
>> hints.
    Your post seems to prove my facts. Hint was a
literary device.
    All Li-ion batts I've read about have regs on each
cell. Can you name any that don't?
    Those in computers are 1 cell and the reg/charger
is in the
device. Even a lot of them have the reg on the cell.
> 
> TS-LP36V and TS-LP42V ARE 36V and 42V batteries
> respectively,
> consisting of individual 10 or 12 cells, just like
> 12V optima consists of 6 cells. Granted, there is
> some sort of per-cell monitoring integrated in,
     Some sort of monitoring? Sounds like a reg to me.
Bet you $5 that they are voltage, temp charger/ regs!!

Okay?
> still this is a battery as complete product.
>No different from Optima if they'd integrated
>a reg per-cell - the same concept.

    Except they have regs on each cell that the Opitma
doesn't need.
    So you admit there is a reg on each cell!!! ;-)
    I wonder how well they will do in a hot ICE engine
compartment?

> 
> BTW the price of a battery is exactly the price of
 >10 or 12
 >cells it consists of, + BMS.
       Of course, they don't dare sell them without a
charge controller/ reg per cell.
       If it was just a monitor they would need to
sell a special battery charger with it which would
still need a shunt or other reg per cell. It's easier,
cheaper to put them on each cell rather than all that
extra wiring and/or reg bus.
       The link didn't work for me and internet search
came up with Chinese writing which I don't read. 
       Is there a company in RI, US? that assembles
them into packs already? 
                    jerry dycus
> 
> See http://thunder-sky.com/Cpjs_next1(En).htm
> 
> Victor
> 



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