Yes it is different! Driving in the east cost from Boston to New York, I got 22.5 mpg in a 1958 high power sports car. In Montana, it was down to 13 mpg because of the steep hills and no speed limit at the time.
I received my first EV in 76 which is call - Transformer I - which I am still driving today! It was test for range in Troy Michigan that is very flat for a 78 mile range. The company pick me up at the airport with the EV which was about 30 miles from the plant and drove back up to speeds of 75 mph. Plug into a 200 amp three phase charger to charge a 300 AH 180 volt battery pack to 80% in 20 minutes and the remaining 20% in about 60 minutes. So I tested out the range in Montana by driving a river road loop around the city that was 39.5 miles long and very flat at 35 mph and still had about 50% SOC. Knowing that, my next attempt is to drive to the next city which was 78 miles from my home. I first tested this course with a ICE. I install time elapsed meter, that recorded the time that the accelerator was press or motor on time vs motor off time. Very hilly with two large steep hills. I found that I only use 45 minutes of on motor time leaving 33 miles of coast time. Scope out all the places that had a 50 amp 250 volt power outlet if needed. The EV got up to 85 mph on the down hill run which on some hills would allow the EV to roller coast up the next short hill. Going up the two very steep hills which I roller coast about half way up, I did not allow the motor ampere go to over 600 amps by reducing the speed to 35 mph. Try this method, you may like it. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce EVangel Parmenter" <[email protected]> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] LEAF range- 60 mi. @ 65 mph; realistic, or not? > Driving in the U.S. is regionally different. East-coast, down in the > southern states, up in Or and WA, ... each has its own peculiarities. > Driving styles are different even in different parts of the SF, CA bay > area: Silicon Valley'ite mouse-clickers drive differently than the SF > Peninsula and East bay blue collar types, and different than the North > bay types. And the highway you are on also has an affect. > > Highway 101 near the SF bay is four lane: with the left most the > carpool/hov during peak traffic, the right lane avoided because of poor > on & off ramp planning (its not only the slow/slower lane but the more > dangerous one, full of crazed types and the mentally infirm). > > Whereas Highway 280 can be a much more leisurely drive, except during > peak traffic times. On the East bay side, the ol' Highway 880 is full of > terrors. Not only drivers either on deleterious chemicals, or hopped up > on energy drinks because of their use of them the night before (in > either case they are not in their right mind). Also, the actual road can > be a horror: potholes, debris, +more). > > [Sidebar: years ago when driving the company ice to a customer site, I > was in the right most middle lane (slower than others, but allows for > queuing to change to the messed-up right lane to take an exit). Long > story short, a LOUD THUMP and then a ding-a-ling chiming sound was > occurring. This happened right when I was dickering to merge into the > crowded right lane who did not want to budge me an inch. Once in the > right lane, the lane was so beaten up from heavy trucks (ruts, pot > holes, +more), a WHOMP from going over a large pothole at ~65mph shook > loose what ever was under my company car. I briefly saw what it was in > the rear view mirror before it went under the car behind me. I got hit > by a tow truck hook. It must have fallen off a truck, was laying in the > lane when my company car ran over it and flipped it just right so as to > put enough English on it to drive it into the underside of the company > car right under my driver's seat (so said the mechanics). They were > surprised it did not drive its self up high enough into my butt. Scary > (from that point on, I knew I was driving a puncture vulnerable beer > can). > /Sidebar] > > Since losing my EV in an accident, I rarely drive the ice I have (I > hoping for a Production EV that fits my needs). And when I do, I drive > it the same as I did my EV: in the right lane going 55mph so as to > pollute less. It means it takes longer to get from point A to B, and I > have to leave lots of accommodating room for wacky drivers, but I have > had few issues/near-misses. > > If I could drive a Leaf, I would drive it at 55mph for maximum range = > less pollution, but that is just me (whether ice or EV, I drive at > 55mph). And Yes, I get plenty of flying-eagles, but I am in the right > lane, they really should not complain. > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > ... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(gesture) > "flying eagle" > > > > - > On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Martin WINLOW wrote: > > Over here in the UK, large goods vehicles (semis etc) are restricted to > > 60mph on dual carriageways - tho most do somewhat less for fuel economy > > reasons - so I usually do a little more which makes me no more of a > > nuisance than the HGVs - and avoids them holding everyone else up by > > having to overtake me - but also assuages my ecological > > conscience/improves my range. I think this is a reasonable compromise. > > > > It is interesting to note that despite fuel being around the £8/gallon > > over here, you would not know it from the speed that everyone still > > drives at on the dual carriageways and motorways... at least 70mph and > > many much more (limit is 70mph for cars but not very well policed). > > Clearly the price of fuel will have to rise considerably more before it > > has any significant effect in reducing highway speeds. Perhaps a little > > government education would be helpful. I doubt many people are aware of > > the exponential rise of fuel use with speed or the direct link that has > > to their car running costs. > > > > Perhaps the same mentality applies in the US. If so, you have a lot > > longer to go before rising fuel costs start to affect driving and car > > buying habits en masse. > - > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
