You did not state what the ampere hour rating of these batteries are.  I was 
searching the web and came across the Interstate Battery specifications for the 
6-volt battery.  The local independent auto Parts Store which I have been going 
to since the 50's started to handle the Interstate Battery line which is only 5 
blocks from me and delivers items to my house. 

So I went to the Parts Store (which is actual name of the store) and I notice 
the Interstate Battery battery truck was there.  I walk in and I want to see 
the data and specifications of these batteries.  

The Interstate battery person said, I have it right here in this book that was 
laying on the counter.  I said, I like to see the data on the 250 ah 6-volt 
battery.  He said they do not make this battery over 220 ah, but we furnish the 
250 ah one which we get from the U.S. Battery Co.  

I said I will take it without any hesitation.  I said I need for them to be all 
the same manufacture date, auto post with deep imbedded stud (use this stud 
connection for a BMS and also to put a greater internal pressure of the auto 
post against the internal surfaces of a battery clamp.  

I also wanted to have these battery balance (battery balance means the ampere 
hour and voltage and the deep cycle cranking ampere at 75 ampere for a certain 
amount of time within a 0.1 V, 5% A and AH of each other.  The Interstate guy 
said this will about double the cost of the battery as a option cost.  You can 
do this testing yourself with the equipment we furnish the Parts Store battery 
shop.  We normally ship 240 of these batteries were you can test out the best 
30 batteries you need. 

Interstate deliver the batteries right to my house.  The batteries were in a 
U.S. Battery package.  I pick out 30 batteries that where match with a voltage 
of 6.44 volts and the cranking ampere was at 1000 amp plus or minus 5 ampere. 
Had to go two pallets of batteries to get this tolerance.

Knowing that the actual drive test and recharge may change this results, One 
battery of 30 batteries was out of tolerance, so they change this battery for 
me. 

These batteries where install on September 4 2009 and had put on 2729 cycles on 
them driving only 4165 miles.  In this roller coaster roads, the actual motor 
on time is about 3000 miles and the motor off time is the remainder.  

Today the AH per mile and charging time over the same exact route and 
temperature is still 3.3 ah per mile and 7.5 minutes of charging at 20 amperes 
at 250 volts.  

The cost of the batteries ran $125.00 for the 250 AH. 

Roland  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lee Hart<mailto:[email protected]> 
  To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range


  Rick Beebe wrote:
  > I have a 144-volt 1998 Ford Ranger that I'm converting from lead to
  > lithium. 18 months ago the 24 Interstate 6-volt batteries in it cost
  > just over $3400.

  That's $140 per battery. This seems quite high for Interstate, which is 
  not a premium battery.

  Most dealers will "make a deal" when you are buying that many batteries. 
  Otherwise, just walk. There's no sense in paying full premium price for 
  a purchase this large.

  I guess I'm cheap. :-) I bought my current set of golf cart batteries 
  from Sam's Club for $77 per battery. I see they want $84 today, but I'll 
  bet they'll come down to $80 or less for a quantity purchase.

  Prior to this pack, I bought a set of 22 US Battery US-145xc for $135 each.
  -- 
  There are few industries with more BS than the battery industry.
  Elon Musk
  --
  Lee A. Hart, 
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