I guess I am old school. I did mechanical design at Caterpillar for 4 years and have a copy of their tome on bolted joint design. I have seen their labs and proving grounds. They build front shovels that weigh 1.5 MILLION lbs, seriously. The down time on these things is incredible and they spare nothing to be convinced of the components and procedures they use. The vibration that a dozer undergoes traversing rock, day in and night out, is incredible.
I think Nordlock is snake oil in comparison. But that is me. YMMV, but I bet less. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:21 PM, David Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Michael Ross <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Jukka, > > > > Is that "tight enough" ± a smidge? I am going with the torque wrench. > > > > I watched a class once where people tried to control applied torque by > feel > > with the max hold set, but hidden, then check the max after to see how > well > > that worked. It was just terrible. A person might get it right once, > but > > they were unable to do very well repeatedly. > > > > Then a set of seemingly identical joints were torqued, and the > un-torquing > > checked. Again, no correlation to the applied torque. > > I'm wondering if they did a controlled test to see how well a "machine" > did. > > > My contention is this loosening is not because the joints are prone to > > loosening, but that they were not torqued correctly to begin with, and > > maybe sometimes not enough. If you torque them right, they won't loosen > - > > ever. > > > > Mike > > I'm not quite buying your last line there. With no movement then yes > but with vibrations in all directions, no. I've seen this test in > other videos but couldn't find them but here is one to show what > happens with a bolt/nut and a vibrating machine with strain gauge: > http://www.nord-lock.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/nl_us.wmv > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, "The summer day." To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk [email protected] <[email protected]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140107/6514640c/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
