Do you know which CALB's these were.
The Blue or the Gray ?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Cruisin
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Cold Charging Lithium Experiences

If the cold isn't enough to worry when using the CALB 180ah cells, early 
failure is substantial with the CALB cells. I have 6 customers using 180's and 
all have had failures of at least one cell in the first two years. All use a 
BMS and a programmed Elcon, so I know the systems are designed right.
About half died while driving, BMS alerted and they shut it down. The others 
started change in resistance values making it difficult to get a complete 
charge, or early discharge alarm from the BMS. One died 1 day after a one year 
warranty. No replacement even though CALB was told of a possible problem early 
on. I don't want to alarm anybody, and I am sure some forum junkie will jump in 
a say he has been using the cells forever without a problem. Probably some 
have, but my experience is that most will have a early failure. Recommendation, 
carry sufficient tools and HV and BMS cables to be able to isolate the cell 
should experience this problem. Otherwise, you will be stuck somewhere where 
you don't want to be. Been there and done.
By the way, don't expect CALB to do anything, even during a so called warranty 
period. Support and service ended when you put them in your donor.
I hope I didn't hijack this thread, just wanted to pass on what I think is a 
troublesome problem.



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