Sorry... it appears I misspoke. The VW beetle I've been working on has a #2 kit from Evolks, not Wilderness EV http://e-volks.com/about2.html? The Wilderness kit does appear much more capable. They were both from Utah so I just assumed it was the same... but no. Sorry about that.
A roadgoing ICE is any internal combustion engine vehicle that you could take on the highway. we tend to call them ICE's to differentiate them from EV's (electric vehicles). Z On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Rey Tesoro <[email protected]> wrote: > Zeke, > > Thanks for your response. Was the $4000 EV conversion kit the Highway kit > from Wilderness EV? Their literature stated that it could power a 5,000 > vehicle at highway speeds. Here a link to their website that describes the > highway kit. Wilderness EV > > What's a road going ICE? > > Rey Tesoro > cell 808.741-1652 > > > ________________________________ > From: Zeke Yewdall <[email protected]> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:54 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] FieroNewbie's : 1986 Pontiac Fiero conversion > > > The EV bug that I've been working on had that $4000 EV conversion kit... > and it's is entirely not suited for a car that heavy. I have to imagine > that a Fiero is heavier than than a '73 VW bug. So far, I've added actual > circuit breakers, a battery monitor, a proper battery charger, a cooling > fan and heat sink on the controller, and got the point where I found that > the marine deep cycle batteries cannot move a car that heavy for more than > 5 or 6 miles before too much voltage sag sets in. Currently upgrading it > to lithium batteries, but then I'm sure the motor will be the weakest link > -- I was able to get close to overheating the motor on hills with the lead > acid batteries, but they died before the motor overheated.... To do a > roadgoing EV, you really need more like $10k it seems, unless you get a lot > of used parts. > > To made a roadgoing ICE, from scratch starting with a glider, with all new > parts, would probably cost just as much, BTW. It's just that used parts > for ICE's are much more available. > > Z > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:52 PM, brucedp5 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > [ref > > > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/1986-Pontiac-Fiero-conversion-tp4668635.html > > ] > > > > I sent an email to FieroNewbie letting them know that they mistakenly > > subscribed to the evdl nabble archive and have not properly subscribed to > > the evdl (their archive posts are not seen by members). I encouraged them > > to > > subscribe so that we could have a dialog. > > > > This type of thing happens regularly, so I have a sort-of form letter I > > send > > out. Most of the time, they get subscribed properly. Or when they try and > > fail, I ask our beloved sys-admin David, to lend a hand. > > > > But FieroNewbie is either afk, has lost interest, or thrown their hands > up > > in frustration. Too bad, there are plenty of read hits, so there are evdl > > members that would have liked to help them achieve the goals. > > > > Leaving a message like this, where one party is not subscribed so that > > members can't talk to them, really does not work (they really need to get > > subscribed properly). But allowing for different personalities, I will > post > > some points, and perhaps others will too. It may help FieroNewbie, we do > > not > > know (we can't talk to them). But, I hope this effort encourages them to > > subscribe properly to the evdl.org , and get the free advice and EV > > information from experienced EV converters/builders. > > > > > > A conversion is not a cheap project, unless you were aiming to only make > it > > move at city street speeds for only a few miles (like a sub-highway speed > > neighborhood EV, a nEV). I will assume that does not fit your EV driving > > needs, and you really want an EV that can go 65mph, with a 30+ mile > range, > > and feel safe when mixing it up on the highway. That is going to cost > money > > (and so would fixing up the Fiero as an gas-car, an ice). > > > > Until FieroNewbie gets subscribed, I can suggest that they look at all > the > > configurations of Fiero's already converted on evalbum.com Using a > search > > gives: > > https://www.google.com/search?q=evalbum+fiero > > > > Looking at their converted EVs gives the newbie an idea of what > components > > were used, and what performance those gave. Different system voltages, > > controllers, motors, give different performances at different project > > costs. > > > > BTW, when you do begin your EV conversion project, I suggest you grab a > > free > > evalbum page. Then you can reference to it's web page address, URL, in > your > > discussions (and future posts with your progress, etc.). Even if you do > not > > have any pictures yet, just put up the basics so others can know quickly > > what is happening. Their web pages are very easy, and you do not need to > be > > a programmer to use them. > > > > Referencing back to trying to do this on the cheap, it might have been > > wiser > > to not have bought the donor, but buy a working but used/pre-owned EV > > conversion. These can be still found, and at a good price. But you may > have > > to pay to have it hauled home (don't jsut search locally, search > > nation-wide). > > > > If you do get subscribed properly, please post: > > -where you are (a general idea, i.e.: in UT, etc.)? > > > > -what you want your EV to do (what top&cruising-speed, range@65mph, > > charging-time& @what AC voltage, and at what total project cost)? > > > > -state how much mechanical experience you have, and is the work going to > be > > done in a location that can have the donor be dismantled for months+ ? > > > > > > I hope you do get subscribed properly to the evdl.org , we would like > to > > help you. > > > > > > Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter > > brucedp.150m.com > > (Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA) > > > > > > > > - > > 1986 Pontiac Fiero conversion > > Mar 24, 2014; 4:45pm -- by FieroNewbie > > I picked up the Fiero for an EV conversion. It has a fiberglass body > > that's > > in good shape but needs a paint job. EV conversion is new to me and I > was > > about to purchase the whole conversion kit from a company in Utah that > does > > EV conversions but when people on the Internet got sticker shock at the > > $4,000 price tag (I would also have to buy the lead acid batteries for at > > least $900), they suggested that I purchase the components separately and > > save a couple of thousand dollars. > > > > No one has been helpful in selecting the specific motor, the controller > > (Paul & Sabrina's controller looks reasonable) and the other parts needed > > for the conversion. 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