Zeke,
Thanks for your response. Was the $4000 EV conversion kit the Highway kit
from Wilderness EV? Their literature stated that it could power a 5,000
vehicle at highway speeds. Here a link to their website that describes the
highway kit. Wilderness EV
What's a road going ICE?
Rey Tesoro
cell 808.741-1652
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From: Zeke Yewdall <[email protected]>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] FieroNewbie's : 1986 Pontiac Fiero conversion
The EV bug that I've been working on had that $4000 EV conversion kit...
and it's is entirely not suited for a car that heavy. I have to imagine
that a Fiero is heavier than than a '73 VW bug. So far, I've added actual
circuit breakers, a battery monitor, a proper battery charger, a cooling
fan and heat sink on the controller, and got the point where I found that
the marine deep cycle batteries cannot move a car that heavy for more than
5 or 6 miles before too much voltage sag sets in. Currently upgrading it
to lithium batteries, but then I'm sure the motor will be the weakest link
-- I was able to get close to overheating the motor on hills with the lead
acid batteries, but they died before the motor overheated.... To do a
roadgoing EV, you really need more like $10k it seems, unless you get a lot
of used parts.
To made a roadgoing ICE, from scratch starting with a glider, with all new
parts, would probably cost just as much, BTW. It's just that used parts
for ICE's are much more available.
Z
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:52 PM, brucedp5 <[email protected]> wrote:
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I sent an email to FieroNewbie letting them know that they mistakenly
subscribed to the evdl nabble archive and have not properly subscribed to
the evdl (their archive posts are not seen by members). I encouraged them
to
subscribe so that we could have a dialog.
This type of thing happens regularly, so I have a sort-of form letter I
send
out. Most of the time, they get subscribed properly. Or when they try and
fail, I ask our beloved sys-admin David, to lend a hand.
But FieroNewbie is either afk, has lost interest, or thrown their hands
up
in frustration. Too bad, there are plenty of read hits, so there are evdl
members that would have liked to help them achieve the goals.
Leaving a message like this, where one party is not subscribed so that
members can't talk to them, really does not work (they really need to get
subscribed properly). But allowing for different personalities, I will
post
some points, and perhaps others will too. It may help FieroNewbie, we do
not
know (we can't talk to them). But, I hope this effort encourages them to
subscribe properly to the evdl.org , and get the free advice and EV
information from experienced EV converters/builders.
A conversion is not a cheap project, unless you were aiming to only make
it
move at city street speeds for only a few miles (like a sub-highway speed
neighborhood EV, a nEV). I will assume that does not fit your EV driving
needs, and you really want an EV that can go 65mph, with a 30+ mile
range,
and feel safe when mixing it up on the highway. That is going to cost
money
(and so would fixing up the Fiero as an gas-car, an ice).
Until FieroNewbie gets subscribed, I can suggest that they look at all
the
configurations of Fiero's already converted on evalbum.com Using a
search
gives:
https://www.google.com/search?q=evalbum+fiero
Looking at their converted EVs gives the newbie an idea of what
components
were used, and what performance those gave. Different system voltages,
controllers, motors, give different performances at different project
costs.
BTW, when you do begin your EV conversion project, I suggest you grab a
free
evalbum page. Then you can reference to it's web page address, URL, in
your
discussions (and future posts with your progress, etc.). Even if you do
not
have any pictures yet, just put up the basics so others can know quickly
what is happening. Their web pages are very easy, and you do not need to
be
a programmer to use them.
Referencing back to trying to do this on the cheap, it might have been
wiser
to not have bought the donor, but buy a working but used/pre-owned EV
conversion. These can be still found, and at a good price. But you may
have
to pay to have it hauled home (don't jsut search locally, search
nation-wide).
If you do get subscribed properly, please post:
-where you are (a general idea, i.e.: in UT, etc.)?
-what you want your EV to do (what top&cruising-speed, range@65mph,
charging-time& @what AC voltage, and at what total project cost)?
-state how much mechanical experience you have, and is the work going to
be
done in a location that can have the donor be dismantled for months+ ?
I hope you do get subscribed properly to the evdl.org , we would like
to
help you.
Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
brucedp.150m.com
(Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA)
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1986 Pontiac Fiero conversion
Mar 24, 2014; 4:45pm -- by FieroNewbie
I picked up the Fiero for an EV conversion. It has a fiberglass body
that's
in good shape but needs a paint job. EV conversion is new to me and I
was
about to purchase the whole conversion kit from a company in Utah that
does
EV conversions but when people on the Internet got sticker shock at the
$4,000 price tag (I would also have to buy the lead acid batteries for at
least $900), they suggested that I purchase the components separately and
save a couple of thousand dollars.
No one has been helpful in selecting the specific motor, the controller
(Paul & Sabrina's controller looks reasonable) and the other parts needed
for the conversion. Can anyone help me in selecting the components
needed
for my project?
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