In air, aluminum oxide forms nearly instantly.  You have never seen pure
aluminum, because it does not exist where a human can stay alive to view it.

Therefore, sanding is a useless activity, if the goal is to remove aluminum
oxide.  You can do it, but you can't stop it from reforming.  I suppose it
is possible the layer is reduced in thickness, but I am not buying that
that matters.

I don't like the idea of sanding terminals.  You want then to have the flat
machined surface they have leaving the factory o get a good bolted joint
with as much contact area as possible.  If the terminals are clean and
un-corroded I would leave them alone.

I suppose one might prove whether the resistance is changed for the better
if you have a really good instrument to check it.  But this will not be
your garden variety multi-meter.

The magic creme noalox, is alleged to pierce the ALO2 crust with zinc
particles improving contact conductance and maintaining it for some time to
come.  I would like to see some sort of evidence of this that is not
anecdotal.  But it might be true.

As discussed here ad nauseum, I believe in clean joints that are torqued
properly with good quality flat washers.  I think a conductive grease that
excludes moisture may be a good idea.  I am less fond of dielectric (high
resistance) greases, but they may not hinder conduction much, as the
current passes predominantly through crushed asperities - metal to metal
contact.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:57 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 30 Jul 2014 at 17:05, Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
>
> > Silicone dioxide is glass, and aluminum oxide is clay, which when
> > heated becomes ceramic, for example...
>
> Maybe it's splitting hairs, but (even though I took freshman chem a LONG
> time ago) I don't know that I'd say "aluminum oxide is clay."
>
> If I'm not mistaken, potter's clay contains aluminum compounds (silicates).
> I think you can chemically extract Al2O3 from it.  Maybe you could say that
> potter's clay CONTAINS aluminum oxide, but aluminum oxide isn't clay per
> se.
>
> I would further disagree with "Silicone dioxide is glass," for two reasons.
>
> First, as with clay, glass does CONTAIN silicon dioxide.  However, it also
> contains other compounds, such as sodium carbonate and lime.
>
> And being a language stickler, I should also point out that the words
> "silicon" and "silicone" are not interchangeable.  Silicone CONTAINS
> silicon, but silicone is not an element, nor does it occur in nature.  It's
> a synthetic (man-made) chemical compound.  There is no such critter as
> "silicone dioxide."
>
> To bring this back on topic, aluminum is not the best conductor, and
> aluminum oxide is a pretty poor one.  Unfortunately making al requires a
> lot
> of energy to reduce the bauxite, and this high embedded energy means that
> Al
> is always in a big hurry to turn itself into aluminum oxide.
>
> To keep this from happening, you have to keep air away from it.  In
> practice, you apply your NoAlOx or other grease within moments after you
> abrade aluminum terminals (and aluminum wire, if you're using it).  In fact
> the instructions with at least one of those glops tells you to slather it
> on
> the (aluminum) wire, then wirebrush the wire with the goop already on it.
>
> As a side note, aluminum's high embedded energy and eagerness to oxidize
> also makes it potentially (pun not intended) useful to power EVs.  In the
> past, EV projects have tried out aluminum-air batteries.  (Unique Mobility
> teamed up with AlCan for one of them in the 1980s.)
>
> There are big problems with al-air, though.  For one thing, they're primary
> (non-rechargeable) cells - in some ways more similar to fuel cells than to
> batteries.  Thus, you don't recharge them, you replace them, or at least
> rebuild them in place.
>
> Also, al-air batteries aren't very efficient.  They deliver only about 15%
> of the energy that went into refining the aluminum.  I don't think that
> includes any energy use factors for transporting the alumnum to where the
> EVs would load it in, so that would make for a  further efficiency hit.
>
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