On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> how much range  is enough...is it better to... decrease price
>>> without improving range or make electric vehicles go further on a charge?
> 
> ​> Why not do both?
> 
> Amen.  I like the new Nissan concept of a range of batteries to match the
> individual.
> 
> I do not want to spend extra 10's of thousands of dollars for an extra 50
> miles range that I only need 2% of the time.  That makes that 2% travel very
> expensive.  Back when TESLA offered three range batteries, the cost
> difference was something like an extra $50,000 to go from their smallest
> battery to the largest.  That means if one generally uses the Tesla for
> local travel, then those once a month trips over 250 miles are costing an
> extra $50,000.  For that money, one can rent a gas car EVERY weekend for 10
> years including gas, and not have to lug around the extra 500 lbs of battery
> every day commuting.
> 
> On the other hand, if one travels 200 miles often, then there is no
> question, the extra $50,000 gives you a great EV to make the trip.
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> 
This also suggests a leasing model for the battery pack. The car can be 
purchased or leased separately from the battery pack. Someone who needs a long 
range can lease a battery pack with a guaranteed capacity of something like 
60KWH. When the pack capacity drops below this, it can be turned in for one 
that has the guaranteed capacity.

The first pack can then be leased for another car at a lower guaranteed 
capacity (presumably for a lower fee). This process can be continued until the 
pack is no longer useful for mobile applications.

At this point, packs can be used for stationary applications like grid 
stability, peak load shaving, and similar things.  When they are no longer 
useful for these applications, they can be taken out of service and recycled 
into a new high capacity pack again.

A driver who need a 25KWH pack most of the time, but on a special occasion, 
needs a 60KWH pack, can simply have the pack swapped and pay the extra fee for 
as long as the higher capacity is needed. For example, in colder climates, a 
higher capacity pack might be needed for a few months of the year. Someone 
taking a vacation might need a higher capacity pack for a weekend or a few 
weeks.

Ed
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