Actually, there is way less motivation for the utility to "penalize" the homeowner in a case like this. Unlike running the entire house off the grid, this approach provides a more predictable usage pattern for the utility. Assuming you don't switch the fridge and other major appliances back and forth, from the utility's point of view you have an entirely grid powered house. What's powered by your panels could just as well not exist or be powered by disposable batteries, etc.

The only motivation for them to penalize you is that they are making less profit. But I think that would fail miserably in court since there is precedent to support economical appliances, LED or fluorescent lighting, and other ways to consume less power.

Peri

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ben Goren via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Michael Ross" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 23-Dec-14 9:03:44 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Michael Ross via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

No, I would look just like anyone else with no power feeding back into the grid. I can flip a switch right now and reach that state. They couldn't make that fly. I would have to pay for a new meter and base or something.

You're still going to have to get the construction past the local permitting and inspection requirements, and the setup you describe is going to set off alarm bells six ways from Sunday.

And, if it becomes popular enough to show up on the radar of the utility companies, they'll just charge _everybody_ a $75 / month "grid maintenance fee," and get it past the public by cutting per-kWh rates in half such that "nobody" actually pays more per month than they do today.

The games the utility companies are playing are of the type where the only winning move (for either side) is to not play.

b&
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