If cars on the road use computers to actually drive then there will be no more 
traffic jams.
Jams occur because people are irrational (think they can go faster by speeding 
up with
traffic in front of them) and have slow response time (need many yards of 
braking distance
for response time).

With connected computer controlled cars, you can drive almost bumper to bumper 
at speed
so the capacity of existing roads is an order of magnitude (!) higher, meaning 
that each lane
can transport the same amount of people as a multi-lane road today.
In addition - *if* the roads goes over its capacity, cars will not stop-and-go 
which
deteriorates capacity excessively, but there will be a graceful degradation 
that allows
cars to either seek alternative routes in real time or simply accept a few 
minutes of slower
(but constant) speed to adjust to the capacity reduction.
The automatic self-driving cars will optimize their utilization, just like a 
phone network
optimizes the amount of circuits for the maximum simultaneous amount of calls.
That means that there can be an "oversubscription" rate typically in the 5 to 
10 times,
meaning that only 10 to 20% of cars are needed to transport the same amount of 
people
as currently with private car ownership.

To the people who bring up cornercases like "my wife is pregnant and I need to 
have a car
sitting ready in my garage to jump into and race to the hospital", I would like 
to say that
there are always cases where a solution needs to be tailored. I can see a 
business case for
a differentiation in autonomous car subscription, where you can get cheaper 
contract and
faires if you are OK with ordering longer in advance and potentially waiting 
longer to be
picked up and a premium subscription or a temporary high-urgency add-on service 
that will
make sure that there will always be a car within 1 minute from your home to 
bring you to
the hospital with urgency. Lots of opportunity to make great business cases 
once there are
automated vehicles on the road.
Of course there will always be cases where it does not work as intended and 
where it makes
sense to keep a private vehicle available for an emergency, but I suspect that 
those
cases will become more rare over time. Similar to the evolution of EVs that we 
see these days.

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Blackmond via EV
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:30 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] How Uber's Auton-EVs will reshape the economy


> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> How Uber's Autonomous Cars Will Reshape The Economy By 2025 By 
>> SeekingAlpha,  May 31, 2015 By Zack Kanter

For anybody skeptical about this, I have two questions.  How many people had 
smart phones in 2005?  How many people do you know today who don't have a smart 
phone?

> 
> Couple more thoughts on this....
> 
> First, I think there's still a logistical challenge to be faced with 
> replacing the commuter car fleet with autonomous Johnny Cab taxies -- namely, 
> that there's a reason why rush hour is a clusterfuck of single-occupancy 
> vehicles. To a first approximation, we'll still need roughly the same number 
> of self-driving public / private cars as we do today, because we'll still 
> have roughly the same number of people going to work at roughly the same 
> time. And those people will be as interested in sharing a ride with other 
> people in the future as they are today. That is, it seems to me like the 
> estimates in the article are naïvely assuming a fleet sized for the average 
> demand will suffice, whereas the fleet still needs to be sized for peak 
> demand. Electric grid operators could offer some insights to these analysts.

Around here (Silicon Valley), the commute congestion period lasts about four 
hours in the evening from 3pm to 7pm.  It seems to be a little more spread out 
in the morning.  A vehicle that takes someone home from work between 3pm and 
4pm could take somebody else home from work from 5pm to 6pm and pick up 
somebody else at 7pm and take them home.  This indicates that peak size could 
be on the order of 1/3 of todays commuter fleet.

Would a driverless car be allowed to use the HOV lane?

Ed

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