What they actually don't understand is that EV's are refuled while parked
and not-in-use in the ultimate of convenience.

Whereas they are so used to gas cars that must be refuled somewhere else,
while they ARE-USING the car.  A big inconvenience.

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via EV
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:40 PM
To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Buying An Electric Car: Why Charging Rate, DC
Quick-Charging Matter

On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:24 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> In broad strokes, if you're confident that you can charge your car at
> home every night--or at work every day--then recharge rate may not be
> quite so important.

They're handwaving away the most important point.

People new to EVs are paranoid about the time it takes to recharge. People
who've lived with an EV for a few weeks wonder what all the fuss is about.
My parents went through this...Dad did a lot of searching for a cheap 220
charger for their new-to-them Leaf. Now, while they wouldn't turn one down
if you offered them one for free, they have no interest in spending money
on one.

I think a lot of people unfamiliar with EVs get hung up on the time to
charge the battery from empty, when the important metric is the time to
charge the battery after a day's typical usage.

If you figure 3 miles per kWh for a typical EV, you'll recharge at about
10 MPH from a standard 110 circuit. Doesn't sound like much...but that's
80 miles after 8 hours, and most of us are either asleep that long or, at
least, spend that much time asleep plus showering and eating and the like.
In practice, most people would have no trouble plugging in for 10 or 12
hours a day at home, giving 100 - 120 miles.

And, save for road trips, how many people even put 80 miles on the road in
a given day? And on the rare days when that happens...how often does it
happen day after day?

Let's say you've got a 200-mile range EV, as is promised for the next
generation of cars. Start the day with a full charge. Drive 100 miles that
single day and end the day with 100 miles. Plug in only for 8 hours, start
the next day with "only" 180 miles. You could keep that pattern up for
over a week before you'd start to have legitimate reason for range
anxiety. Give the car a couple days of 12-hour charges on your (presumed)
weekend when you're only putting a few dozen miles per day on the car, and
you're all caught back up again. And I think it's safe to suggest that
what I just described is a rather extreme situation, even in America. Not
unheard of, but very unusual.

Fast charging is nice to have, sure. But it becomes _less_ important with
bigger batteries, not more -- and we're emphatically headed to bigger
batteries. But the only time you actually _need_ fast charging -- assuming
overnight access to a 110 outlet is as ubiquitous as it typically is -- is
for road trips or other scenarios where you're spending almost as much
time in the car as you do in bed. And most people are renting cars for
road trips these days anyway....

Cheers,

b&
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