The problem goes away if we can get CONDOs and condo ev drivers to accept "good enough". Instead of asking for a dedicated L2 circuit with ALL OF THE ATTENDANT problems either of sharing or trnasforemer overload, the owners should consider just negotiating to get a L1 OUTLET or an L1 charger post, then the load of just another 15 amp circuit is really nothing compared to asking for a 50 amp 240 VAC circuit.
One could even say that the greed of instant fastest charging for a few, is killing the 90% solution for overnight charging for everyone else that needs it. Having L2 for everyone IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. And in 10 years, every car will have a plug on it. Putting lots of money into fast L2 is not sustainable... until it is built in from the get go. EVEN THEN the peak load of all those chargers will have to be spread out over time (overnight) so as to level the load. Doing L1 automatically spreads out the load. Ask only for L1, you will get it. Ask and demand L2, and the problems are insurmountable in a bureaucracy.. Just my opinion. Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Harris via EV Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 2:00 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strata (Condos) won’t allow parking space EVSE modifications in bc.ca Yes and no. I have a townhouse form of strata and I have a 120v plug in my garage and easy access to my electrical panel so it was not a problem. The issue is almost universally that strata’s don’t like to pay the cost via the ‘public’ purse for a benefit that is then privately consumed. With strata structured apartment buildings where the parking is disassociated from the unit’s the cost of retrofitting an EV plug can be in the thousands of dollars for one run iff the buildings transformers and such can take the load. You get into the issue of ok the owner who paid the $10k to get the unit in their parking stall, the next owner will need to pay $10k too and the third owner will need to pay $100k because the transformer and panel needs to be upgraded. I usually suggest to people they get on the strata council and at the same time talk up their neighbours about the positives of an EV before they broach the subject with the strata council. If you are on the council and have support from neighbours it can go easier at least in the initial request. In BC.CA here the provincial government just announced a rebate incentive toward multi-unit building of $7500/ charger toward installing EV chargers so that should help sweeten the discussion as well. Never the less it is a problem. Lawrence > On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:20 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The lesson is, when you "buy" a condo, you don't really own it. > > Same deal when you lease an EV - it's not really yours, as folks who > had EV1s and Honda EV Pluses 20 years ago would ruefully tell you. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL > Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. > To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the > webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3579 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160404/68dd2d19/attachment.bin> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
