---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [EVDL] SteveS wants to plug-in his Volt pih at or near his > destination hotel ... > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 22:34:06 +0200 > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:46:21 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] SteveS wants to plug-in his Volt pih at or near his >> destination hotel ... >> From: [email protected] >> >> Standard wall plug in Netherlands and Germany are fused with 16A (230V) >> while in UK I believe it is 13A. >> It is relatively easy to get a 25A 3-phase outlet (400V) for things like >> power tools or an electric stove cooktop. I was even allowed to install the >> house wiring and outlet for it, after which the utility company came to >> switch out the single phase meter for a 3-phase one, no other cost than an >> increase in monthly pay for the 3-phase connection instead of single phase. >> But that was many moons ago. > > wow, extra fee to get 3phase , > but that was in the Netherlands and Germany, right? > > Here (Sweden) I assume they will probably charge us a lot extra IF we > wanted to load down the grid out of balance with only 1 phase and large main > fuse :-) > but who would want to do that? anything over 10A should be 3phase, in my > opinion. hehe. > > In Sweden it is 6,10,16, 20, 32 that is the most common plug current > > and the main fuses is normally 16 or 20 Amp, > for a house with electric heating at about (about 9kW) I think it would be > normal with 20, > I have 20A mains but would probably do well on 16 also if I dont run > the heater and "boiler" at the same time as the microwave, cookingplates and > things like that. > > (It is also possible to install relays that cut the power to for example the > hot water heater for the short time as that the micro or stove is at full > power) > > > >> 3phase FTW! ;-) >> >> >> // John
Most common older outdoor plugs would be Schuko 10 and 16Amp, and yes, they are everywhere here also, as in Finland and Norway. Major workplaces have at least part of the parking lots equiped with block heating plugs, for ICE-cars.. Outdoor plugs for ICE is 1phase schucko, 6 or 10Amp(230V) sometimes 16Amp. Most common 3phase wall-plugs are 5pin 16 or 32Amp, very cheap but good. red = 400V in phase - phase) https://www.esska.se/esska_se_s/CEE-don-foer-vaeggmontage-5-polig-400V-IP44-9539000P0056-16510.html or the "new" EU-plug, 3pin "blue 230V CEE" at 10-16(6h) Amp (Blue = 230V, is 1 of the phases to neutral) , 63Amp redplug(400V 3phase) also exist from some buildings (125 too, but that is very large,,, industrial) 1 or 3 phase power and Ampere calculator: http://rapidtables.com/calc/electric/kW_to_Amp_Calculator.htm or just go shucko! That is the "normal" indoor/outdoor plugs here, I guess it is the same way in Norway, Finland and Germany too, So usually you can assume they are fused at 10Amp. normally it is a 1.5mm2 copper area. (so a normal "weak" shucko-plug outlet still give you about 10-15 km charge per hour at work, or at home overnight. (a home-charging-plug that cost you about 2-3 usd.. ! ) I think 13Amp fuses upgrade is allowed nowdays, at the old 10Amp cable, but.. a 2.5mm2 area makes more sense if you do a new install, Then it is ready for 16Amp also (so that is about 3600W in a resistive load) // John _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
