Doesn't that just defer the cost to installation? Seems like you would need bigger wires using half the voltage.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > I visited Electric Motor Werks in San Ramon yesterday > https://emotorwerks.com/ > and apparently I was the first Beta-tester of their CHAdeMO 50kW charger > that they have been testing in-house on their own vehicles for over 100 > charging sessions recently and will soon release. > I do not know their pricing, but I suspect that it will be very competitive, > probably below $10k. I do know that it is entirely developed in-house incl > production/assembly and the concept they are using is quite innovative, this > is the first Smart Grid enabled Fast Charger, so they can integrate it into > their network and you can earn money with it (JuicePoints is one of their > programs). This means that the charger can earn back its investment if it is > used often enough. > The cool thing with this Fast Charger is that it only requires a standard > single phase 208 or 240V connection which is way cheaper and easier to find > than the 480 Delta connections that almost all other Fast Chargers require, > as 480V is the standard for a business park service connection but it is hard > to find that voltage elsewhere. > There is some other amazing feature of this Fast Charger that I rather see > that they disclose themselves, so I won't post it on here. > They are still in the final stages of the basic development, working on > things such as the cooling. That is why I only saw 110 Amps into my pack > (at something like 390V) because they have for now limited the power to 44kW > while improving the cooling. > The voltage and current were reported by my Leaf itself via LeafSpy, so > independent from what EMW was doing (I like independent verification of > claims). > > So, while they are not yet ready for release, I would certainly keep en eye > out for the Fast Charger from EMW. > > Regards, > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless > > office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water > XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info > > http://www.proxim.com > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and > proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this > message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized > use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is > prohibited. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:32 PM > To: EVDL Administrator; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] PG&E's EV Charging Plan Still Angers Industry Players ... > > Do you know of a DC fast charger that has a lower price? All the ones I > looked at were in this ballpark. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:44 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 2 Aug 2016 at 1:03, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >>> >>> $22 million for 1,500 EV chargers ... >> >> A charger costs $14,667? Seriously? Good grief. >> >>> But PG&E´s proposal would require all EV charger hosts to charge their >>> customers based on prescribed time-of-use rates ... >> >> I think I see what PGE are doing, but why should they get to stipulate what >> the CUSTOMER pays? They should bill the energy used to the company >> providing the chargers, on whatever terms (time of use or otherwise) they >> negotiate. Then it's up to the charging provider to recover that cost from >> its customers -- or, if they want to, from the site hosting the charger, or >> by some other means. >> >> Perhaps I'm just naive, and I know it would cost more -- but I wonder if a >> charging provider couldn't avoid all this power company hassle by consuming >> no grid power at all -- rather using PV or another alternative energy source >> to power their charging stations. >> >> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >> EVDL Administrator >> >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >> reach me. 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